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  •  So . . . do nothing? Posted downthread, but . . (2+ / 0-)
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    Vetwife, bjedward

    I am sorry Kansasr that's not democracy. And 2/3rds not willing to concede to bigotry is a bigger deal then isolated stories. And better for us, and the President in wanting reforms.

    You probably realize the impact of the stories of random woman having no redress to vote after purged for sig, ppl being directed one place (then FL locking the doors and calling police, only when no one left would they finally let them vote). Impact stays when Official Proceeding.

     How does showing really blatant Election Fraud by an R not help? Especially if doomed to failure. How does that make the current Congress look good by rubber stamping? If it were OH, and Kasich did as bad and worse, it'd be a big deal as it should. I'd help even if were losing BATTLE, because the war is the perception of VOTING (Fraud v. Election FRAUD) one actually happens and matters. And opens the dialogue for Obama's off the cuff acceptance speech. Battle v. War. You sacrifice one for the other. The war is and should be an amendment to the constitution re voting.

    Not to mention saying, eh ok. Is totally against the principles this country was founded upon. Impeachment was specifically put into the Articles, and Constitution.

    When our Founding Fathers met during the deliberations of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia (May-Sept. 1787), they established the impeachment process as the constitutional remedy for those public servants who would potentially violate the public trust. The impeachment process was part of the carefully crafted system of checks and balances, separation of powers, and limited government with the consent of the governed, and other enlightened principles inherent to a constitutional republic.

    I think we'd agree, as they felt, in deeming "a republic to be the best and highest form of government . . . a government based on the judicious rule of law rather than the capricious rule of man, and ultimately enforced by the ordinary citizenry.---->I think Vetwife and the others should be applauded for actively being citizen participants, whether or not likely. If not, what the hell is the point?

    It is in the Constitution exactly so that it is a constant check against totalitariasm, monarchy. The Founding Fathers recognized the fact that our public servants, our elected representatives and other government officials, were fallible men who could be corrupted and could break the chains binding them to the constitution to commit untold government mischief and subvert the republic.

    James Madison, the father of our constitution, in The Federalist Papers (No. 51) asserted regarding the need of impeachment: "It may be a reflection of human nature that such precaution may be necessary. But what is government but the greatest of all reflections on human nature?"

    See also Franklin stating it necessary to check and keep country a Republic (rather than resort to assassination).

    Giving a corrupt politician another year, because it is easier is not democracy. Plain and simple. It is the opposite.

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