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  •  We'll raise wages (1+ / 0-)
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    the same way we've done it for the last 150 years.  Workers will get angry and fight and strike and form unions.  Sometimes we'll lose, sometimes we won't raise wages for decades, and we'll have to take on the immigrant folks as allies to succeed.

    I'm not happy about it, watching wages plummet in, for instance, the roofing installation industry, but the alternative of hating, and trying to choke off the powerful force of immigration, hasn't worked either.

    •  I Don't Think So (0+ / 0-)

      Because the union labor movement relies either upon a high demand for, or a low supply of, labor.

      I do wish the union labor movement all the best however.

      I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

      by superscalar on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 11:33:00 AM PST

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      •  Nope. (1+ / 0-)
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        As I say below, read the history of the labor movement.  What, you think the Gilded Age had a low demand for labor?  Please.  Who do you think was doing all the gilding?

        Read.

        Read history.

        You'll learn something.

        I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. -- Thomas Jefferson

        by nilajean on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 11:53:08 AM PST

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        •  No, In Fact I Think That The Gilded Age (0+ / 0-)

          What, you think the Gilded Age had a low demand for labor?

          Had both a very high demand for, and a relatively low supply of, labor.

          Because the union labor movement relies either upon a high demand for, or a low supply of, labor.
          Read.

          Ummm ... Okay

          Read history.

          Ummm ... Okay

          You'll learn something.

          Ummm ... Okay

          I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

          by superscalar on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 12:10:22 PM PST

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          •  No again (1+ / 0-)
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            Had both a very high demand for, and a relatively low supply of, labor.
            VERY high immigration rate at that time.  Irish fleeing the Potato Famine, for example.  Unable to get good jobs ("No Irish Need Apply" under the "Help Wanted" signs, for instance), the settled for whatever they could get at whatever pay they could get.

            Sound familiar?

            I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. -- Thomas Jefferson

            by nilajean on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 12:33:44 PM PST

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      •  proud, angry labor (1+ / 0-)
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        can overcome the so-called free market.

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