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  •  She is liked here, but not in the rest of the U.S. (1+ / 0-)
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    So are we about backing leaders who can only win a popularity contest on the left (though there are many, many on the left who do not like Pelosi) , or are we more interested in backing a leader who can take back the House and help President Obama?

    Why shouldn't the Democrats put forward a new generation of dynamic, smart, diverse, progressive leadership candidates?  Why?

    •  she's a leader of the left (9+ / 0-)

      hence the term "democratic" leader.  she's not running for the presidency.  she's not after the electoral popular vote.  that's the whole point.

      she's taking a job where strong arming and exchanging favors, backroom deals, threats, bargaining and in-general everything we hate about politics is the task.

      and she is freakin extraordinary at it.  she doesn't need to be replaced.  she has experience.  people owe her.  people need her.  and yes, people are terrified of her.  and that's the job!

      who are you going to put in there who can do that?  

      jesus christ.  at least try to understand what you're asking for before you go asking.

      she IS effective for this post.  she is in a safe district to be a liberal boogeyman for the right.  she can afford to be hated by 60% of america FOR THE LEFT.  

      and your criticism of her is nothing but right ring nonsense and shows that you're not skeptical, but just downright gullible.

      •  I am not criticizing her politics (0+ / 0-)

        which I generally like, though I believe she is a weak advocate for them.  (Sure, the Affordable Care Act was a massive victory, but she and Harry Reid did a supremely crappy job of explaining it and selling it to the American people, so a legislative victory translated into a crushing electoral defeat a few months later.)

        I am glad she was able to accomplish what she has in her career.  

        What am I asking for?  A Democratic leader who does not drag down the President's legislative agenda due to her own personal unpopularity (even if it's unfair).  

        •  nancy is not a weak advocate (3+ / 0-)
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          for anyone who is comfortable with a strong female leader.  and there are lot of people, women and men, who are not.  and quite frankly--based on your comments in this thread--i'd put you out there with russert.

          Her tone, her laugh, her condescension, her chorus of snickering acolytes.
          that just smells...

          any woman who has ever held a leadership position understands the tightrope of double standard that has to be walked every day.  and quite frankly, i'm super duper impressed with how she walks it.  it's graceful and dignified, and demonstrates a patience for stupid people that i hope i can dare to have.   (particularly during the bush administration--oh holy sh*t)

          and for those people who want to buy into the bullsh*t and attack her on cosmetics (see your comment above) and not on substance...you're never going to be comfortable with a powerful woman in that position anyway.  and i'm not calling you a sexist.  the reason you're not going to be comfortable is because the mysoginist bastards on the right are never going to be comfortable.  and right now, they're writing your talking points.

    •  Taking back the House (8+ / 0-)

      is not Nancy Pelosi's main job -- it's to control the House Democrats that are already there. And she's done a good job of that; when she was Speaker, over 400 bills were passed by the House that went to the Senate and died because they never came up for discussion.

      If you want to take back the House, go bark at the DNC and the DCCC, and the state Democratic parties that are still letting way too many Republicans run unopposed for their House seats. That's where the real problem lies.

      "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

      by Cali Scribe on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 09:41:40 AM PST

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      •  amen (4+ / 0-)

        nc turned deep red this year and lost US house seats because of redistricting.

        not because nancy pelosi showed up in boogeyman attack ads. but because the state legislature was controlled by republicans when they re-drew the maps.  

        because democrats (not enlightened kossacks like ourselves) think you only vote every 4 years when there's a presidential election.

        and that's what we need to work on.  not eating our own empowered female leaders.

    •  She's only unpopular with the right wing GOP (2+ / 0-)
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      the lunatic fringe.  The average voter doesn't have a problem with her.

      Trust me, they'll hate any leader the Dems put in charge, especially if its a woman.

      Please stand by. I'm looking for a new sig line.

      by Betty Pinson on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:11:08 AM PST

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    •  Oh noes!! The Republicans in the country don't (2+ / 0-)
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      like Nancy Pelosi.  The Dems MUST get rid of her right away.

      Just as with your "illegal immigration" posts about how it's not Walmart's fault their warehouse workers are underpaid, it's the illegals' fault, I really think you need to make a visit to Redstate.  You'll feel a lot more at home there.

      "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

      by gustynpip on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:14:59 AM PST

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