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  •  Strong incentives to renounce are an interesting (6+ / 0-)

    thought. I'm not advocating this, but I wonder whether research could be done on the demographics most likely to take advantage of renunciation if most practical barriers were removed.

    Could solving our problem with a lunatic right wing be as simple as saying "anyone that wants to renounce, can renounce, and can continue to live here—tax free, penalty free, but (1) without any further access to federal or state benefits, and (2) without the right to vote."

    Supposing for a moment (and again, we don't have data to support this) that it is primarily red-state right-wingers that would take the knee-jerk action of disengaging from the U.S., this would have the effect of both taking the big takers in the red states off of the balance sheets and keeping them out of elections at all levels.

    We could still jail them if they started shooting people up, or breaking the law, of course. And it would have the effect of creating a giant, ultraconservative underclass (if we proceed with the assumption that mostly far-right believers would take advantage), but it's a fascinating thought experiment.

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    I am not a purity troll. I am a purity warrior.

    by nobody at all on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:46:04 AM PST

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    •  The rich would do it (2+ / 0-)
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      in a heartbeat.

      Tax free? Penalty free? Hell, they'd be breaking down the doors.

      They don't care about voting. They only care about buying. And they could still donate to SuperPACs, so they could still buy a politician or two.

    •  I don't see how it could work (1+ / 0-)
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      Calamity Jean

      Someone who renounces U.S. citizenship no longer has the right to remain in the U.S. as a citizen, obviously.

      Nor are they green card holders, and I can't see a reason that the federal government would grant them green cards.

      Maybe they should be eligible to remain as temporary foreign workers.

      I don't think it would be fair to all the other non-American-citizens to have a special category of permanent residence.

      On the other hand, if they are working, they would continue to pay taxes toward all the programs they hate so much—without the right to vote.

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