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  •  Yes, Paul VI was not progressive in birth control (0+ / 0-)

    but he did allow women religious great leeway in setting their own rules... he was not insistent on the traditional habits and semi cloister rules ...

    He also expanded roles for lay women in the Church ... yes, it was only baby steps but at least it was something ..
    Yes, he was insistent on the traditional views regarding birth control, but under his leadership, priests were allowed to counsel women that sometimes artificial birth control was alright (and with most young US priests that meant all circumstances)  

    At the time of Paul VI there were not these fixations that are now in the Church where everything is about sexual sins .... and he was not the reactionary who tried to end the reforms of Vatican II ... the problems is that Vatican II was not an end, but the beginning, and had someone more like Paul VI followed John paul I (or even JPI Had lived longer), women's voices would have been heard more and more changes would have come about and still be coming.   An institution that is 2000 years old doesn't change easily ...

    the actual regression began with John Paul II and the current occupant is even worse .. he is determined not only to turn back Vatican II , but the Reformation too

    Give your heart a real workout! Love your enemies!

    by moonbatlulu on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 03:19:27 PM PST

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