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  •  an embarrassment to the Bureau. (15+ / 0-)

    Guys like this make it difficult for the straight-arrows to do their jobs.  

    Sending any kind of personal photo, other than a plain-jane facial picture as part of one's sig as a means of identifying oneself, is way the hell outside of professional bounds.  

    And apparently he developed a personal interest in the individual as well, and made it known to them.  That's an "objectivity compromise" of the worst kind, and also way the hell out of bounds.  

    We can't have that going on in any police agency, and especially not in the FBI or other federal law enforcement.

    He needs to be terminated for cause.  Or if his counterterrorism skills are especially good, such that he is not replaceable in that capacity, he at least needs to be removed from any role that involves dealing with the general public.  

    Those of us who are hawks about law enforcement, despair of cases like this.  

    We got the future back.

    by G2geek on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 06:47:17 PM PST

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    •  Like so many other people in this saga (17+ / 0-)

      Shirtless guy AND his wife were friends with Kelley and her husband.

      This group really has the "friends" concept down to a swinging art.


      One may live without bread, but not without roses.
      ~Jean Richepin
      Bread & Roses

      by bronte17 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 06:54:50 PM PST

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      •  Shameless social climbers of the most galling (4+ / 0-)

        species. UGH to the eleventy billionth power. How our 'top' generals can't spot them from outer space is very scary to me.

        Ho'oponopono. To make things right; restore harmony; heal.

        by earicicle on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 07:02:41 PM PST

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      •  There's something pretty big going on here (25+ / 0-)

        My CT guess is that Kelly was instrumental as a sort of go-between in some pretty huge favors for contracts schemes, in which military contractors--many of whom are based in or have offices in Tampa because it's where CentCom is HQed--tried to get top military brass to plug their products for fat DoD contracts, by wining and dining them (and treating them to certain other "entertainment") and likely promising them lucratic post-military careers as "consultants" and top executives. If so, then surely there were members of congress involved too.

        If this story goes in this direction--and I'm betting it does--it's going to be HUGE, and it will take a lot of top people down, most Repubs.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 07:06:29 PM PST

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      •  Dick Morris is feeling so left out (5+ / 0-)

        "Injustice wears ever the same harsh face wherever it shows itself." - Ralph Ellison

        by KateCrashes on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 07:14:15 PM PST

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      •  Salahi party mix, anyone? Has lots of nuts in it! (7+ / 0-)

        "Injustice wears ever the same harsh face wherever it shows itself." - Ralph Ellison

        by KateCrashes on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 07:16:33 PM PST

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      •  I keep picturing (17+ / 0-)

        some sort of military version of key parties happening here.

        TalkLeft has some really, really great coverage of all of this as it unfolds.  

        Apparently the role of Jill Kelley in this whole thing gets weirder and weirder.  She had 'meetings' set up with Allen.  Meetings that Paula Broadwell was flipping out about and sending Allen anonymous emails in order to 'warn' him about her. WTF?  

        He denies an affair...Kelley's an "honorary consul", a go-between with some foreign nationals, she had wide access to the base and more illustrious CENTCOM figures (apparently she was entertaining an admiral just last week when the story about her broke!)...

        ...what the hell was Allen doing meeting with this crazy woman, sending her reams and reams of emails, and writing really ill-advised letters of recommendation in her sister's custody case (when a cursory look at the judge's ruling would've scared any sane person away from the whole mess, let alone a four star general with a career and reputation to protect.)

        The woman who lawyered up very heavily must have some very heavy secrets to protect.

        I'm so glad I'm not a spy.  A simple, direct life these days - no muss, no fuss.  What you see is what you get.

        "The ignorant mind, with its infinite afflictions, passions, and evils, is rooted in the three poisons. Greed, anger, and delusion." - Bodhidharma

        by hopesprings on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 08:32:55 PM PST

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        •  Were it not for the emails (9+ / 0-)

          I would have written her off as a shallow socialite looking to become queen of the upper crust Tampa social set. Every community has some of those. But the emails give it whole different twist that I suspect will lead in some bad directions. No way were those emails about party planning and casual flirtation.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 09:48:40 PM PST

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        •  Thank you for the link. (3+ / 0-)
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          I just finished reading "Connections Unplugged" and my head is about to explode.  How in the HELL did the sister get not one, but two of our top commanders to write letters of support? WTF is wrong with these guys?!

          •  "What is wrong with these guys" indeed (3+ / 0-)
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            Whatever is wrong with them is not good.   So far I see these options:

            a) The top military/national security brass of this nation - the people most responsible for keeping us safe from foreign and domestic enemies - have the emotional maturity of junior high schools boys, with their favors easily co-opted by a tight dress, some flattery, and invitations to the right parties...

            b) The financially compromised Tampa Kardashian Twins have something on many of the CENTCOM celebs they've been 'entertaining' and can twist them around their little fingers with a whistle...

            c) Kelley and her unstable sister are working with the US in some sort of pseudo-espionage/go-between/informer function - possibly for pay, given their enormously embarassing debt situations - and their work is so sensitive, the CIA/FBI would rather throw Paula Broadwell (not exactly a subtle operator herself, but at least educated, experienced and credentialed - and a member of the military brother/sisterhood) under the bus than compromise them.

            Every single possibility thus far listed (I'm sure there are more) is dismal and embarassing at best, horrifying and inexcusable (in terms of national security) at worst.

            It makes Profumo look sophisticated.

            "The ignorant mind, with its infinite afflictions, passions, and evils, is rooted in the three poisons. Greed, anger, and delusion." - Bodhidharma

            by hopesprings on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 05:59:17 AM PST

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            •  After reading the TL link you cited (0+ / 0-)

              I now suspect that although Broadwell was obviously having an affair with Petraeus and may well have been jealous of Kelly, and most likely hacked into his schedule, she may have also been concerned that he and Allen were compromising themselves and possibly military and US interests in their dealings with Kelly, but instead of referring this to the FBI or CIA's internal investigation division (I assume they have one), to protect the generals and herself, she sent those anonymous emails, hoping that Kelly and Allen would have the good sense to stop what they were doing, whatever it was.

              Thing is, if what Kelly was up to was as bad as you and I suspect, why would she compromise herself by referring the matter to the FBI, even if it was through her friend there? Was she that stupid and convinced of her own "inviobility" (You FBI agents get off my lawn!)? Or was what she was up to relatively innocuous, consisting of schmoozing with and perhaps bedding top military brass and little else? And why did she turn to the FBI and not Allen, a powerful man who could presumably helped her in the matter? Did she know he got those emails too?

              I don't think that Kelly was involved in espionage, not directly at least. Her behavior seems too reckless and foolish to make her a likely spy. Sounds more like someone whose job it was to socially connect top military brass with defense contractors to secure fat contracts, via lavish parties and who knows what else (it's Tampa, after all). Maybe Broadbell figured this out and decided to put a stop to it, but in an amateur and stupid way intended to protect everyone.

              Gotta wonder, though, if, not appearing to be the brighest bulb, Kelly was used by people who WERE trying to spy on the US, and she was too stupid to sense it or weak to do anything about it.

              "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

              by kovie on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 06:35:58 AM PST

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    •  Sadly, he seemed to have been instrumental (7+ / 0-)

      in apprehending the Millenium Bomber in 1999, to his credit (one of many things that differentiate us from them is that we have no problem acknowledging and praising a job well done even when we don't like the person who did it). Perhaps 9/11, the GWOT and Fox News fried his brain, and maybe he's disgruntled over internal issues he might have with the FBI, possibly after Obama took office. I'm guessing that he's no longer worth having in the FBI no matter his skills.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 07:01:04 PM PST

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      •  Yes, and (5+ / 0-)

        his Seattle roots do explain why he called Reichert. The 'shopping around for someone who would listen to his story' assumptions can be laid to rest.

        Other than these things, the guy is a mess.

        © grover


        So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

        by grover on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 07:55:59 PM PST

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        •  I guessed as much several days ago (2+ / 0-)
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          I lived in Seattle for many years so I made the connection. Gotta wonder now if he's had any dealings with John McKay, one of the 8 fired Bush US Attorneys who was the USA leading the Seattle office at the time.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 08:02:28 PM PST

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