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  •  Read the entire linked article(s) about (0+ / 0-)

    what Bertolini said and you will find more consistency from Bertolini than you can get from an isolated quote in the diary. Btw, I'm not a fan of Bertolini or of Aetna but I'm an ardent fan of context and accuracy.

    The sh*t those people [republicans] say just makes me weep for humanity! - Woody Harrelson

    by SoCalSal on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 09:55:21 AM PST

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    •  People who say other people will (5+ / 0-)

      "suffer" unless he gets the deal he wants while he's pulling in 10 Mil a year for managing a company that basically offers worthless health insurance don't get any breaks from me.  Especially not when they say this:

      Bertolini said delays or cuts to Obama’s $1.2 trillion health-care overhaul may be part of the solution as the U.S. seeks a long-term fix to its budget deficit. The overhaul’s subsidies to help the uninsured buy coverage may be scaled back or phased in, or their onset delayed past a scheduled 2014 start date, he said.
      Yes, let's delay uninsured people from getting healthcare.  So compassionate.  Especially since we already have an analysis by the CBO that health care reform will actually shrink the deficit.

      "If you tell the truth, you'll eventually be found out." Mark Twain

      by Steven D on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 10:26:47 AM PST

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      •  Isn't that odd, tho? (0+ / 0-)

        As an insurance company, why doesn't he want more people buying his insurance sooner than later?  Wasn't the mandate (and subsidy to make it possible) the quid given to the industry for the quos of eliminating pre-existing conditions etc?

        •  The exchanges will kill Aetna (5+ / 0-)

          Once people have choices in their insurance provider, instead of being locked into whoever their employer has negotiated with, they will leave Aetna in droves. He knows it.

          •  Also, without "pre-existing conditions" (2+ / 0-)
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            radical simplicity, Steven D

            To limit the pool, they will have to insure, within guidelines set by the Federal government, people who have not had insurance and desperately NEED it.  This means they're not only getting those 27-year olds who are hale and hearty, they're getting the 45-year old with high blood pressure and uncontrolled Type II diabetes, the 36-year old waitress who fell last year and has been working with back and knee pain that she hasn't been able to see a doctor for, the 50-year old who hasn't seen a dentist in 10 years and so on.

            They are going to have to actually pay out 80% of what they take in -- and with a larger pool and limits on what they can charge, that may very well mean that the days of the $10,000,000 salary are setting fast.

            Heaven forfend that medical insurance return to its roots of spreading out the risk, and actually paying for care, rather than simply being a piggy bank for some of the worst of the 1%.

            "There isn't a way things should be. There's just what happens, and what we do." — Terry Pratchett (A Hat Full of Sky)

            by stormicats on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 11:49:16 AM PST

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      •  Bertolini: raise taxes, avoid "fiscal cliff" (0+ / 0-)

        That was his message in this particular case. And yes, he also said that both sides need to compromise.

        Bertolini's message aligns with the message to republicans that President Obama is asking of CEOs. I don't agree with everything Bertolini said, but his message to republicans on tax increase is what I do want to read.

        The sh*t those people [republicans] say just makes me weep for humanity! - Woody Harrelson

        by SoCalSal on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 02:36:00 PM PST

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      •  Let me guess: He wants to delay it to 2016. How (1+ / 0-)
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        202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

        by cany on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 05:42:19 PM PST

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