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  •  Your comment is nonsensical. (2+ / 0-)
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    Roger Fox, trumpeter

    What the hell do the tactical disincentives of spoilers in an election without runoffs have to do with the fact that (a)  that the Reagan tax cuts for the rich have failed, (b) most Americans have no problem with just about any level of tax increase on the rich, and (c) the only way to change the debate is to change the debate, not engage in some lame neo-DLC self-fulfilling prophecy that America isn't ready for common sense.

    Anyone who advocates it will be labeled an extremist.
    Oh noes!!1!  The people who label us Marxists for advocating 3% tax increases for the rich after decades of cuts will also label us Marxists for advocating 10%, 20%, 30% increases.  Whatevuh shall we do?!  Are you for real, or a troll?

    "They fear this man. They know he will see farther than they, and he will bind them with ancient logics." -The stoner guy in The Cabin in the Woods

    by Troubadour on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 10:52:54 AM PST

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    •  You pegged me. (0+ / 0-)

      Yes.  You've figured me out.  I'm a troll.  The giveaway was that I was arguing that the policy positions of today's Democratic party are good policy positions for this day in age and part of keeping together a winning coalition.

      I simply think that, regardless of whether it is actually good policy, advocating 70% marginal tax rates is political suicide for a host of reasons.  If you can't see that, so be it.

      I also support President Obama and believe he says what he means.  When he says he wants a "balanced approach" to deficit reduction, I think he means it and I'm willing to get behind him.  If you aren't, that's your perogative.  

      •  This is a balanced approach to deficit reduction. (2+ / 0-)
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        It's been so unbalanced in favor of tax cuts for so long that only massive tax increases on the wealthy can bring back any semblance of balance.  Any claim that we have to sacrifice SS and Medicare to "balance" out some tiny tax increase on the rich is just nonsense.  There is no reason not to massively increase taxes on the wealthy, and every reason to do so.  

        So you need to decide whether your politics are reality-based or just another example of the centrist, Overton Window-driven jellyfish politics that leaves Americans perpetually on the verge of poverty every time a Republican gets put in office and reverses your "balanced approach" with a wave of their hand.

        The President can use whatever rhetoric he deems fit, but the objective of this Party is to restore sanity and decency to the tax code.  That means huge tax increases on the wealthy.  Nothing else can rebuild this country.

        "They fear this man. They know he will see farther than they, and he will bind them with ancient logics." -The stoner guy in The Cabin in the Woods

        by Troubadour on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 11:49:55 AM PST

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        •  That person seems to be advocating (2+ / 0-)
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          Troubadour, trumpeter

          for continued slow GDP growth, low job creation numbers and increasing income and wealth disparity.

          And thats the best way to hold the Democratic coalition together.......

          Must be snark.....

          FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

          by Roger Fox on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 12:23:28 PM PST

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      •  I'm waiting for the saber to come rattling out of (1+ / 0-)
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        Troubadour

        the sky to chop my head off.

        SO youre saying we need to keep our real working ideas a secret, so ...

        We can never truly solve any problems and thus consistently yield ground to the oligarchical class.

        Thats a winning plan, promote shit that wont work, that'll hold the coalition together, right you are I must some kind of dumbass, because all these years I studied solutions that actually solved real problems.

        OMG 50+ years, a waste, W@haaaaaaaa.......

        FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

        by Roger Fox on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 12:17:17 PM PST

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    •  I dont have 20 years left, I aint waiting (1+ / 0-)
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      Troubadour

      Nonsensical is right.

      FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 12:11:52 PM PST

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