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  •  Which part am I wrong about? (2+ / 0-)
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    MichaelNY, bontemps2012

    The part you just agreed with:

    Because the overwhelming majority of libertarians
    are disgruntled former Repubs
    or this part:
    at their core being more selfish than genuinely caring about liberty, which is a Republican mentality
    My impression is that former Repubs who are unhappy with their former party's selfishness are now either indies or Dems, not libertarians, and that libertarian former Repubs tend to believe that the GOP is too pro-big government.

    Myself, I love big government, so long as it stays out of our private lives. But I'm too reality-based to be a libertarian. The world needs some rules and coercion.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 06:29:38 PM PST

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    •  The second part (0+ / 0-)

      Very few real Republicans joined the Democratic Party after leaving the GOP.  Most became unaffiliated voters or Libertarians.  A few became Greens.

      The people who jumped ship to the Democratic Party were the "joiners" who came of age after Reagan was elected.  I joined the GOP in the seventies and left in 1992 because of the fundie/neocon/supply-side holy trinity.  That trinity has nothing to do with the "old school" Republican platform. Two-thirds of that trinity came from the conservative wing of the Democratic Party.

      My primary political goal in life is to get all forms of income treated equally with respect to taxation. I do not mind paying taxes as long as I am not treated like a second class taxpayer.  We need one set of tax rules with no exemptions or loopholes.

      •  I think you are incorrect about this (0+ / 0-)
        Very few real Republicans joined the Democratic Party after leaving the GOP.
        That is, if "real Republican" just means someone actually registered as a Republican. It's widely accepted, and I think it's true but stand to be corrected, that lots of moderate Republicans (specifically, fiscally conservative but socially liberal Republicans) in places like suburban Philadelphia, suburban Chicago, the suburbs of New York, Upstate New York, and Vermont first started splitting their tickets, then became independents, and ultimately joined the Democratic Party.

        I don't give you permission to determine for all of us who among them was a "real" Republican. Republicanism is not some kind of Gospel truth, to which everyone but a few are heretics.

        As for your support for regressive flat taxation, I would suggest you consider not discussing such things much on this site, as this is a liberal Democratic site, and your views on these kinds of things will be met with hostility on the main part of the site and the observation that they are off-topic on the Daily Kos Elections sub-site.

        Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

        by MichaelNY on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 07:59:28 PM PST

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