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  •  Bush's Off Books War Costs Put On Obama's Bill (0+ / 0-)

    Do you have a link for that?  I would love to be able to use that information in discussions I have with my Obama "lovers".

    Poor man wants to be rich. Rich man wants to king. And the king ain't satisifed until he rules everything. B.Springsteen

    by howd on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 01:15:30 PM PST

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    •  Google is my friend..hope this helps (0+ / 0-)

      That Bushco were fighting the war on supplemental was sort of common knowledge even before the 2008 elections.

      I just looked this up on google and this seemed like something relevant to this discussion. I am sure that CBO will have documents around this as well somewhere for the wonks among us to write about this and the impact this had on the subsequent health care debate: specially the public option.

      This was one of the initial steps that President Obama took in summer of 2009 (iirc) before the healthcare reform debate, can someone pls help me out here.

      I had naively assumed then that the President knows best, but as soon as I heard the Republican machine go after President Obama for raising the deficits, it dawned on me that this was the 13th dimension chess in play as opposed to the 11th dimension one which normally benefits the side you are on (because 13 is the unlucky number).

      When the OFA or DSCC would call on me for campaign donations, I would raise this issue and ask them to comment on that, of course, their response was : will you volunteer for the Obama campaign when you get behind the President. The other issue was Bill Halter: that did really cost our cause as well and it did not help that the DSCC was still campaigning for Blanche Lincoln (I hope I got the names right).
      Hope this helps.

        •  Thanks (0+ / 0-)

          Thanks for the information.  In reading the link and the comments, it appears that the supplemental appropriations takes the item off the books by not having any offsets and enables the administration to somewhat hide the true costs, but is included to calculate the final deficit for the year.  

          Poor man wants to be rich. Rich man wants to king. And the king ain't satisifed until he rules everything. B.Springsteen

          by howd on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 10:17:50 AM PST

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