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  •  I want the Republicans to continue to (4+ / 0-)

    lose their footing on the cultural wedge issues generally and on LGBTQ rights particularly.

    The red team just got whomped in a national election.  A good handful of their far-Right nutbags lost seats.  And in most cases will be replaced by blue votes for meaningful reform in the next Congress.  

    A long time ago would have been the best time.  Next best time is right now.  Fair's fair, this is a good idea, it's long over-due, and it's high time to get it done.

    After the Republicans lost this election, it's now more strategically expensive for them to howl like wounded animals about how sinful and God-tempting LGBTQ people are.  

    An index should be created to measure far-Right fundie and Bagger objections to LGBTQ equality issues correspondent to how many more young people leave their church in Dallas or Macon or Nashville.  And how much more difficult national elections will become if they keep trying to cast LGBTQ people into the eternal flames.

    Best chance in a long time.  Full steam ahead.

    •  So do we prefer for the GOP to reaffirm (5+ / 0-)

      their homophobic stances, or for them to drop all this anti-gay stuff? For gay people, it may be better if there were no major Party who was always trying to hurt them. On the other hand, if the GOP stood down on its anti gay crusade they'd win more elections, and on many issues the liberal gay community would be worse off.

      •  Either answer is a winner (2+ / 0-)
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        It's just a matter of short term or long term benefit.

        Supporter: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!" Adlai Stevenson: "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"

        by Scott Wooledge on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 03:22:13 PM PST

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      •  An awful lot of LGBTQ folks vote. (3+ / 0-)
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        They show up, they vote, they vote blue.

        In overwhelming numbers.

        Those are hundreds of thousand of votes the GOP does not have.  Whether they want to transform their platform into something worth our vote is their call.  

        Til then, though, I'm voting as blue as it gets.

        When the President of the United States says, out loud, on tv, that he and the First Lady have no problem at all with same-sex marriage, for instance, it changes the landscape inside and outside the head of a 15-year old in Topeke, a 17-year old in Hartford, and a 12-year old in Nashville.  

        That's a new landscape.  The inside-the-head dialogue will reject the GOP's homophobia.  And if that young man or woman registers to vote, the GOP will continue to lose support.

        And IMO they deserve to.

      •  We want the public to know the truth (0+ / 0-)

        There are two ways to "drop all this anti-gay stuff".

        One is to pretend it isn't so, while keeping up the Dog Whistles, which is the stock Republican thought on all of the issues that they are losing on. This is a losing strategy, because they always get outed. [sic] As is continuing to admit, even flaunt [sic] their bigotry.

        The other is to stop being, or pretending to be, homophobic, and come out [sic] for LGBT rights. I'm all for that. We are seeing more and more of it.

        The public tipped on LGBT rights a few years ago. Politics is designed not to respond to shifts in public opinion immediately, but elections have consequences, some sooner and some later.

        The war is lost, but not conceded. Most will surrender at some point. Some will fight to the bitter end, and then claim (as in Germany after WW I) that they were sold out and stabbed in the back, and start looking for scapegoats and planning their next putsch. Let a hundred conspiracy theories bloom.

        America—We built that!

        by Mokurai on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 09:00:59 AM PST

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