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  •  That's a decent looking bench. For now. (5+ / 0-)

    As for our side, unless Clinton runs its pretty slim pickins.

    O'Malley has got to make a national name for himself some sort of way. Cuomo might be a favorite of the New York media and Wall Street, but methinks he's gonna have a rough time of it in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina.

    As for Biden, I dunno. He's done this quite a few times and never seemed to be able to generate any passion and committment out there. Might be time for younger faces to post up against a youngish GOP squad.

    Who else we got out there?

    •  'm pretty sure Biden's thrown in the towel. (0+ / 0-)

      I always got the sense that he accepted the Vice-Presidency partially out of resignation that he would never be a President. I think Mr. Biden could do it, and do it well - but he's, for whatever reason, not got that spark that enflames passions for him.

      Plus, he's well past the 'freshness date', the notion that a politician usually only has about ...14? 17? years past the date they first achieve a national office to make it into the White House. The idea being that the longer someone stays in the national eye, the more defined they become, which means that they are easier to target with negative ads. It's not an ironclad rule, but it tends to be a pretty effective one.

      Not to mention, he'd be... what, 73 when 2016 rolls around? That's cutting it a bit close for my comfort honestly, a President Biden would be passing median life expectancy before he could go for a second term. (IIRC, it's 77.)

      Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?

      by ConfusedSkyes on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 01:39:56 PM PST

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      •  Who else we got out there? Pretty slim pickins (0+ / 0-)

        in my view.

        •  Honestly, I think O'Malley, Patrick, Schweitzer (5+ / 0-)

          are all strong contenders, and I don't really feel like we have 'slim pickings' when it comes to our 2016 line-up. It's early yet.

          In 2004, no one knew who Barack Obama was if you weren't a political junkie.

          Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?

          by ConfusedSkyes on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 01:53:17 PM PST

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          •  Scheitzer is certainly a character. (1+ / 0-)
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            Patrick? meh.

            O'Malley I like a lot. Like him on TV. Gotta see him on the stump though. Stump speech is everything for a presidential campaigner.

            Obama was something quite different. His stump was pretty much self evident from the day he announced for Senate. We're not gonna get an Obama this go round.

            Unless we get Clinton of course, who would be a giant among men.

            •  I'm in the camp that's not really enthused about (1+ / 0-)
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              Clinton, for various reasons, although I supported her over Obama initially, and if she did take the nomination, I'd have no qualms voting for her.

              Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?

              by ConfusedSkyes on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 02:15:45 PM PST

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          •  The GOP wouldn't know what to do with Schweitzer (0+ / 0-)

            They'd have a gameplan ready for another evil big city socialist arugula-commie that's too dark or too estrogen-filled to resonate with real America, and then here comes a western populist who looks like Teddy without the walrus mustache, vetos bills with a branding iron, and yet was in discussions with a Canadian province over the possibility of using their single-payer structure in Montana.

            I really don't know how they'd go after him. (Which is not to say he's the best choice, just that I don't know how they'd attack.)

            Probably, they'd use the fact that he speaks Arabic to set up some sort of double agent CT.

            •  Kerry and Obama are the exceptions, not the rule. (0+ / 0-)

              Southern Democrats have dominated the party at a presidential level for a while.

              Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?

              by ConfusedSkyes on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 03:03:26 PM PST

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            •  Schweitzer is a terrific speaker (1+ / 0-)
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              folksy and hilarious. He spoke at our state Democratic dinner this past summer and I thought he was great even though I am urban to the core.

              Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

              by anastasia p on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 03:20:42 PM PST

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          •  Gillibrand (1+ / 0-)
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            I really like how outspoken she has been on key progressive issues, especially the attacks on women.

            Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

            by anastasia p on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 03:19:35 PM PST

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            •  I've heard really good things about her (0+ / 0-)

              But I don't personally know much about her, so I keep forgetting how to spell her name. I usually just remember there's a 'Brand' in there. >_>

              Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?

              by ConfusedSkyes on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 07:52:14 PM PST

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        •  Hillary. She just has WAY too much support. (0+ / 0-)
      •  I think he has to pose as a contender (1+ / 0-)
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        to show his virility and strength as 2nd in command. I think he'll step aside.

    •  Deval Patrick, the Governor of Massachusetts? (4+ / 0-)
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      He rocked the house with his DNC speech, and he has done a bang-up job in Boston.

      OTOH, the history of nominees from Massachusetts is...checkered.

      Art is the handmaid of human good.

      by joe from Lowell on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 01:43:06 PM PST

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      •  Yeah. The next Mass. politician that gets elected (0+ / 0-)

        president is probably gonna have to be a Kennedy. Everyone else is pretty much cursed.

      •  The list - with (some) odds (3+ / 0-)
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        No Odds yet:
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        Deval Patrick
        Cory Booker
        Julian Castro
        John Hickenlooper
        Mickey Dale "Mike" Beebe
        Kirsten Gillibrand
        Christine Gregoire
        Kamala Harris
        Jack Markell
        Jay Nixon
        Antonio Villaraigosa

        w/ODDS:
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        =
        Hillary Clinton          13/2
        Mark Warner              8/1
        Tim Kaine                10/1
        Kathleen Sebelius     12/1
        Evan Bayh               12/1
        Martin O’Malley        12/1
        Andrew Cuomo         15/1
        Joe Biden                18/1
        Elizabeth Warren      20/1
        Dennis Kucinich        20/1
        Kay Hagan               20/1
        Jim Webb                25/1
        Brian Schweitzer      25/1
        Sherrod Brown         30/1
        Rahm Emmanuel      30/1
        Claire McCaskill        30/1
        Kirsten Gillibrand      35/1
        Bob Casey, Jr.          35/1
        Janet Napolitano       40/1
        Ken Salazar              50/1
        Amy Klobuchar          50/1
        John Tester               50/1
        Harold Ford, Jr.         100/1
        Bill Ritter                  100/1
        Al Sharpton               150/1
        Jack Reed                  150/1
        Al Gore                      200/1
        Al Franken                 200/1
        Michelle Obama          500/1

        •  I feel bad for Jack Reed. (0+ / 0-)

          Evan Bayh - haven't heard that name for a while.  That guy scares the crap out of me unlike anyone else in politics, Democrat or Republican.  Dead-eyed sociopath, reminds me of the President in the movie The Dead Zone.

          Art is the handmaid of human good.

          by joe from Lowell on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 03:43:06 PM PST

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    •  I think A Biden will run in 2016,but not Joe (1+ / 0-)
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      "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

      by LaurenMonica on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 01:59:04 PM PST

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    •  Brian Schweitzer? Sherrod Brown? (0+ / 0-)

      Kirsten Gillibrand?

      All qualified, but no one knows who they are. Besides Obama there aren't too many young, famous Dems.

      16, Progressive, Indian-American, Phillies Phan. Obama/Om/Chase Utley

      by vidanto on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 02:06:28 PM PST

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      •  You don't start out "famous" (0+ / 0-)

        You become famous when you campaign. Any of those people would become famous overnight if they threw their hats in the ring. I detest the idea that we need someone "famous." Fame is empty. Should we run a Real Housewife or a Kardashian?

        Sherrod Brown isn't that young, but he's pretty well known. I don't get the sense the presidency is in his sites, although I guess you never know.

        Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

        by anastasia p on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 03:22:44 PM PST

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    •  I also cannot see Cuomo making headway... (0+ / 0-)

      ...in any early state, and given how he has been a "boat anchor" on Democratic attempts to gain control of the NY State Senate, what helps him as a National Candidate among the nominating activists of the Democratic Party aside from fond memories of his father?

      When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 02:34:03 PM PST

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