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  •  LOL - You're not going to believe this... (12+ / 0-)

    ..I really did have this set to go. Oh well..I have the link for Robert Parry's new book.
    The Neocons’ Waterloo
    Exclusive: The last week has witnessed what might be called the Neocons’ Waterloo as their bid to reclaim power was beaten back by President Obama’s reelection and their last major government ally, CIA Director David Petraeus, resigned amid a sex scandal, Robert Parry reports.
    By Robert Parry - November 14, 2012

    The decisive defeat of Mitt Romney in the presidential race and the forced resignation of ex-Gen. David Petraeus as CIA director have marginalized America’s neoconservatives more than at any time in the past several decades, confining them mostly to Washington think tanks and media opinion circles
    The neocons bet heavily on a Romney victory as they envisioned a return to power, like what they enjoyed under President George W. Bush when they paved the way for the U.S. invasion of Iraq and dreamed of forcing “regime change” in Iran and Syria. During the campaign, Romney largely delegated his foreign policy to a cast of neocon retreads from the Bush era.
    The neocons now find themselves without a strong ally anywhere inside the Executive Branch.
    A Split on the Right
    Over the past three-plus decades, the neocons have joined with cultural and economic conservatives more as a marriage of convenience than as a sign of true affection and shared values. Now, as the Religious Right and the Ayn Rand ideologues face harder times politically, the neocons are pondering a trial separation, if not an outright divorce.
    The President  has been working to strike a deal with Iran on its nuclear program (and is expected to seek a resolution in the weeks ahead) and the stiff sanctions seem to have caused Iran to be more receptive. The neocons were/are strongly opposed to  that kind of cooperative approach
    The significance of Petraeus’s resignation as CIA director is that the ex-four-star general was one of the neocons’ last insiders who could be counted on to frustrate Obama’s negotiations with Iran. Last year, Petraeus complicated U.S.-Iranian ties by pushing a dubious story about Iran planning a terrorist attack in Washington.
    The Accommodating Obama    
    Besides keeping Bush Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and  high command Petraeus, which was applauded as the “team of rivals”, the President also agreed to the surge into Afghanistan
    Obama’s generosity, which included a decision not to seek any accountability for war crimes committed by the Bush administration, won him little reciprocity, however. Secretary Gates and Gen. Petraeus, with the tacit support of Secretary Clinton, blocked Obama’s interest in hearing less aggressive options on Afghanistan. They essentially steered him into support of a major troop “surge.”
    So, when the White House learned that Petraeus had entangled himself in a sex scandal, there was no rush to help the CIA chief extricate himself. Rather than sweeping the scandal under the rug and letting Petraeus stay on – as he apparently expected – or concocting a cover story for a graceful exit, the Obama administration let the story play out in all its messy details.
    Decks Cleared
    Between the outcome of the election and the departure of Petraeus, President Obama now has the chance to take full control of his foreign policy. The neocons also find themselves sitting on the outside looking in more so than at any time since the 1970s when they emerged as a group of hawkish ex-Democrats and embittered ex-Leftists who defected to Ronald Reagan.
    Turning on Obama
    The neocons rallied behind Romney who’s foreign policy white paper was taken straight from their “Project for a New American Century”which in the 1990s built the ideological framework for the disastrous Iraq War and other “regime change” strategies
    No wonder John McCain is acting out (to put it nicely). The neocons are on the out. Let’s hope things stay that way

    My cutting/pasting and words don’t cover it that well so here is the link to the article:
    October 20, 2012

    •  "Such, my angels, is the role of sex in history." (4+ / 0-)

      "The significance of Petraeus’s resignation as CIA director is that the ex-four-star general was one of the neocons’ last insiders who could be counted on to frustrate Obama’s negotiations with Iran."

      Katherine Hepburn. The Lion In Winter.

      Fuck Big Brother...from now on, WE'RE watching.

      by franklyn on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 09:18:49 PM PST

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    •  But Petraeus was hand picked by Obama (2+ / 0-)
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      What am I missing here?

      A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. -- Groucho Marx

      by Pluto on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 09:22:20 PM PST

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    •  The NeoCons are an extension of Likud Party (1+ / 0-)
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      out of Israel. The same men who served George Bush and held the highest clearances and had offices at the Pentagon were being paid as much as $500,000 a year by Likud's major power brokers. Perks include getting a taste from foreign arms deals.

      Lunch with the Chairman by Seymour Hersch, March 2003.

      Richard Perle led the group for 35 years. He achieved fame early by getting the emigration right for Soviet Jews with the Jackson-Vanik amendment to Nixon's multibillion dollar "Russian Wheat Deal" in 1972. From there he went into the military hardware deals and Grand Strategy as the principal adviser to Bibi Netanyahu including this in 1996:

      A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm

      Getting America into a ground war in the Middle East is one of that paper's stated objectives. The "Realm," here, is Israel. What you had with George Bush was American foreign policy being run by Bibi Netanyahu's (and Likud's) team of strategists.

      Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, David Frum,
      James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Douglas Feith (whose father had been one of the founders of Likudnik Berat, back in Poland), Robert Loewenberg, Jonathan Torop, David Wurmser, Meyrav Wurmser. One way or another, all of these men relied on payments out of Israel that were channeled through the so-called Think Tank money launderers.

      The Lie Factory at Mother Jones is an even handed summary of what happened.

      Respect for American democracy is essentially zero. One simple first-step toward defending against this invasion is to revoke the security clearances of anyone taking money from foreign sources, plus revoking any and all access pass privileges to sensitive government property. These guys take a lot of foreign money.

      F.B.I. questions do have to be answered truthfully. Evasions on money sources should result in immediate lock-outs.

      Bribery and blackmail: eternal partners.

      And yes, the Far Right wacko/mystics in Israel have been screeching that Obama is a "secret Muslim" and a threat to destroy Israel since 2007. Obama's speech in Cairo was so sane, so realistic that he just had to be a djin or a Satanic angel.

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