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  •  YOur poll is pretty bad (4+ / 0-)

    IMO religion and science can't ultimate coexist because one has a mystical faith based worldview and one has a rational fact based worldview. Not because evolution is "better".

    •  I agree, science and religion are opposed. (1+ / 0-)
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      And I would add that religion is an old way of understanding the world, and science is a new way of looking at the world.  Science is a way of looking at the world that leads to greater understanding of the world than the old ways ever did.

      Religion could offer some insights into human nature, but they were an inefficient model of reality in pretty much every other aspect.

      •  I disagree with your premise (0+ / 0-)

        of old way/new way.  Science, logic and reason have existed in some form for at least as long as religion.  And we still have people today that think - despite all evidence to the contrary - that the earth is 6000 years old because The Bible.

        A lot of math, which I would argue is the very language of science, has Arabic roots.  Yet a popular religion among Arabic people is Islam, and some Arabic followers of Islam even today believe in ridiculous nonsense like dying a martyr is rewarded with 72 virgins in the afterlife.

        Technology has advanced exponentially throughout the last century, which gives us better scientific tools but science itself is certainly not "new," nor are ridiculous religious beliefs exclusively "old."

        Arrrr, the laws of science be a harsh mistress. -Bender B. Rodriguez

        by democracy inaction on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 06:32:33 AM PST

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        •  Falsifiability is a relatively new thing. (0+ / 0-)

          Skepticism and falsifiability are new concepts.  Relatively.

          There's always been degrees of questioning, of thinking and logic and so forth in various circles, but it hasn't been rigorously defined into a coherent, complete way of looking at the world around us until relatively recently.  400 years or so.

          The worldview of the old religions definitely is old.  Scientology is a new religion, and there will continue to be new religions around, but as far as I'm concerned, viewpoints such as those will be categorized within the infancy of our species.

    •  My thoughts precisely. n/t (0+ / 0-)

      Arrrr, the laws of science be a harsh mistress. -Bender B. Rodriguez

      by democracy inaction on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 06:01:40 AM PST

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    •  Tecolata, you are assuming, at least implicitly, (0+ / 0-)

      that humans can not hold two contradictory concepts in their brains. However, we seem to be able to do that quite well. I would think that there should be some evolutionary benefit to that ability, although I am hard pressed to name it.

      He who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.

      by Sophie Amrain on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 04:22:17 PM PST

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