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  •  Sea bird danger? (1+ / 0-)
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    Did I read someplace that the turbines pose some sort of threat to sea birds?  Maybe I'm mixing that up with something else?  

    •  some of the older (1+ / 0-)
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      land-based poorly sited wind farms, especially Altamont Pass in Cal., chop up lots of birds.

      •  Lots of things kill birds (1+ / 0-)
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        Just Bob

        Bird death should not be considered a deterrent to installing wind farms. See Sibley Guide in bird mortality.

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        by bobinson on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 12:13:19 PM PST

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        •  The irony (delta smelts, spotted owls, etc). n/t (0+ / 0-)
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            Turbines are habitat for the spotted owl or something?

            Anyway, airplane engines chew up birds all the time (suck them in too).

            Of course, airplanes have not been built becuase they chew up birds (and suck them in)...

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            by yet another liberal on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 05:27:04 PM PST

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            •  To my knowledge, the turbines are not a habitat (0+ / 0-)

              for anything, though the towers and roads probably are. Except for very rare circumstances, aircraft kill birds one at a time, and on a per-flight-hour basis, extremely rarely at that.

              I'm just amused by advocates who are okay with, and try to minimize, the potential consequences to assorted wildlife if it's associated with their pet rock. I'm remembering how the caribou were going to be decimated because of the Alaskan Pipeline some years ago, and now this.

      •  I think the older smaller ones that moved faster.. (0+ / 0-)

        and birds couldn't see did hurt a lot of birds. But so do power lines!
        The big ones, which do look fine with their 'stately' movement, aren't as dangerous. Though there are specific known flight paths mirgratory birds take that should be avoided. Like the hawk/eagle route down the coast range in California.

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        by LOrion on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 02:55:26 PM PST

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