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  •  Boehner Stl have the votes to make a big deal. (2+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse, NotGeorgeWill

    I wonder if he is still being held to a majority of a majority criteria  in order to get his caucus on board with a deal. As far as I can tell. The 50% +1 vote in that caucus couldn't give a damn about who won the election and recognize any deal as surrender. All he is doing is stalling for as long as he can and hoping the president gets the blame when things fall apart.

    Truth is He probably barely has the votes to increase any taxes at all. This is going to get ugly.

    " we could go all day with the issues "

    by East Village Blue on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 07:03:26 PM PST

    •  He doesn't need them (1+ / 0-)
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      slinkerwink

      In steps minority leader Pelosi with nearly all the votes he needs, so long as he can kick in another 20 or so. And surely there are at least 20 Repubs who don't want to be the next Lundgen or West.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 07:24:57 PM PST

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      •  you think? they are very well organized. (2+ / 0-)
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        slinkerwink, East Village Blue

        they do that, they will get primaried.

        yes, that is what the Dems should be doing, trying to peel off 20 votes, but you wonder how successful that will be.

        An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

        by mightymouse on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 08:12:19 PM PST

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        •  They don't do that, they will lose in the general (0+ / 0-)

          Even I don't believe that most of these Repubs are that stupid and crazy. I reject the silly myth of the GOP coalition that will not break and the Repub who will not abandon their "principles" no matter how crazy. The modern GOP didn't reinvent politics or human nature. They just played it very well. Till now.

          I think that Obama's finally figured out how this works, and that he's been the GOP's stooge for nearly 4 years. Apologies for the sexist throwback reference but he's got to be able to look Michelle in the eye and explain to the girls one day why we let those awful people run right over him. A man's got to be a man eventually.

          Those 20 are absolutely gettable. Just takes the right getter.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 09:42:22 PM PST

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      •  any deal needs 50% republicans (0+ / 0-)

        To even come to a vote. That is the way they played it in the debt ceiling fight.  If Boehner allows this to get passed with only 15% republican support he loses his job. Gerrymandering, incumbency, and dark money means that the middle of the republican party can stay on the other side of crazy and not worry about consequence. My take anyway.

        " we could go all day with the issues "

        by East Village Blue on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 07:27:20 AM PST

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