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  •  You think it is unproductive and inefficient to (0+ / 0-)

    engage in public debate with people who are offering policy prescriptions that you consider to be impractical, dangerous, and in the main, pointless distractions?

    How un-Jeffersonian of you.

    To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

    by UntimelyRippd on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 07:51:41 PM PST

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    •  My point is you are not (0+ / 0-)

      engaging in debate.  You are calling people names and being obnoxious.  I fail to see how that is productive.

      Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world--and never will. Mark Twain

      by whoknu on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 06:22:47 AM PST

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      •  these diaries are not intended to be debates. (0+ / 0-)

        they are intended to be propaganda.

        one of you posts a diary.

        typically it contains a marginal fraction of new ideas, but mostly is just a retread of previous ones.

        then the rest of you come in and compliment the diarist.

        and each other.

        and then you condescendingly "explain" to all dissenters that they:

        Don't understand money.

        and/or

        Need to read some foundational tract of the movement.

        and/or

        Lack a sophisticated perspective

        etc.

        Meanwhile,  the entire argument is dressed up in deceptive jargon that obfuscates rather than clarifies, throwing the poor uninitiated person into a psychic crisis (Am I  dumb? Do they know something I don't? Can I become an initiate too?)

        To anyone who does have a reasonable understanding of money, whose only gain from reading the foundational tracts would be to learn the definitions of the obfuscating jargon, and whose perspective is sufficiently sophisticated, thank you very much, the entire proceeding is just as obnoxious and insulting as you perceive my manner to be.

        To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

        by UntimelyRippd on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 07:54:14 AM PST

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