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  •  The ideologue's dilemma (41+ / 0-)

    Republicans are true believers in their own disjointed, ad hoc bullshit worldview.  They eagerly guzzle the Kool-Aid, pretending it is Chateau Lafite.  When they lose elections they should win, they look at the wins and ignore the losses.  When conservative candidates lose, they believe they need to become more conservative.

    Conservatism cannot fail, it can only be failed.

    What I think has finally happened is what I'd almost given up hope for:  they finally got too extreme for even the gullible American polity.  I've been waiting for this for years, and have been continually disappointed.  But their hatred of women, shameless fealty to their oligarchic masters, and ever-expanding hatred of anybody not exactly like them have finally turned off too many voters.  Trying to disenfranchise minorities who fought too hard to get the franchise might finally have been the last straw.

    Yes, they believed their own propaganda.  But the reason they did is that they're True Believers.  As Eric Hoffer warned us decades ago, True Believers bring us nothing but trouble.  Fortunately, they've brought it on themselves at long, long last.

    Citizens United defeated by citizens, united.

    by Dallasdoc on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 04:23:44 PM PST

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    •  Isn't Rove accredited with repeating (20+ / 0-)

      Goebbel's "if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth"?

      If I recall correctly, it was not only unabashed, but a somewhat boastful comment after the Iraq invasion.

      Lies always bite you.  Rove ate his own lie and it ate his innards.

      Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth - Abraham Lincoln

      by Gustogirl on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 05:02:26 PM PST

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      •  But you know this time their "truth" just... (8+ / 0-)

        didn't fly because we had such a good candidate, exceptional human being, not perfect but really smart, cool and very likable.

        It looks like the lies didn't work this time.  Yeyyyyyy!  Humanity is winning one.

        "Republicans are the party that says that government doesn't work, then they get elected and prove it."-- PJ O'Rourke

        by nocynicism on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 06:38:12 PM PST

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      •  Money conquers all. Rove isn't gone. (2+ / 0-)
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        Dont Just Stand There, Dallasdoc

        People like Adelson stood to gain billions more than the billions they own if Romney were elected. For Shelly, it's worth the risk. $100m, in the medium term, isn't much of a loss for him. Even if he thinks he pissed it away, he's lost no power. Which is where he wants to be when the next opportunity approaches.

        •  Yes, but the money is worthless. (1+ / 0-)
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          That is the new reality those who lust for money refuse to accept. Money = power, but only when it is used as a tool to deprive others of what keeps them alive.

          We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

          by hannah on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 03:51:21 AM PST

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        •  Adelson may not have lost much power, but... (2+ / 0-)
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          Mighty Ike, OleHippieChick

          Adelson is a businessman.  He got rich because he didn't piss away his money, his investments.  He understands ROI (return on investment) and wants to get the maximum return so he can be even more rich.  People that rich tend to be greedy.

          I have to think that the money he pissed away, while  small fraction of his wealth, has to be eating away at him that he got ZERO ROI.  More reasonable people, less wealthy people, may think like you and me "Hey, it's only 2.5% of my net wealth..."  

          Anyway I HOPE it's eating away at him.

          "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." -- Hubert H. Humphrey

          by Candide08 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 06:18:32 AM PST

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      •  We create our own reality (3+ / 0-)
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        I don't recall Rove ever repeating Goebbel's line.  However, he was allegedly the unnamed Bush aide who made the following statement--"The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do"

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