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  •  Kos was wrong on this. (7+ / 0-)

    Obviously, there is no direct proof for the claim that has been made by the group Anonymous.  

    Nor will there be any such proof offered by it because it is a loosely organized extreme leftist radical fringe element of individuals who (among other things) routinely engage in what society deems cyber-criminal activity; but who at least as far as we can deduce seem to primarily engage in such cyber-activities for the greater good as they see it.  

    The claim that Anonymous has been made, however, in reality.  

    The idea that discussing a real claim by a real group with respect to what the majority of us know or suspect is a real problem - vote tabulation irregularities and fraud - is in no way CT.

    Particularly so when the well-documented history of Anonymous is acknowledged and considered.

    •  "Real claim by a real group" (9+ / 0-)

      And you write that just after writing this:

      Nor will there be any such proof offered by it because it is a loosely organized extreme leftist radical fringe element of individuals who (among other things) routinely engage in what society deems cyber-criminal activity;
      So, essentially, you're suggesting that because someone (could be anyone, even me) posted something claiming to represent a group called Anonymous, then, therefore, the claim, itself, is "real" because... Well, because... Because it just is.

      Or something.

      •  Absolutely not, Bob. (1+ / 0-)
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        It seems very obvious, however, that you know close to nothing about the group Anonymous.  

        You really should do some research.  

        And attacking me is weak.

        •  Heh. (6+ / 0-)

          So you're 100% sure that the note that was highlighted in the other diary was from the group that calls itself Anonymous?

          Really?

        •  He didn't attack you (1+ / 0-)
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          He disputed your argument. We're no better than the right if we can't attack someone's logic without assuming it's a personal attack on ourselves. That's Sarah Palin logic.

          "Because Romney's a clown . . ."--Henry Francis

          by LeftCoastTimm on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 04:06:17 PM PST

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          •  An empty and baseless disputation. (0+ / 0-)

            He simply had no basis to dispute my argument or logic.  Where I come from, if someone has no knowledge of or rational basis for something they are postulating about, it is best to just be quiet.  

            I find it to be quite silly to assert that the message was not from Anonymous.  

            This is, of course, a totally different matter than conclusively deciding the message was truthful and accurate in its entirety, or believing any of the facts asserted in the message have been proven or were in any way likely or probable.  

            None of which makes it any less newsworthy or deserving of consideration and discussion here.

            The point of this diary is the entire matter is BS CT.  My point is this is obviously wrong given the very well-established history of radical cyber-activities by Anonymous.

            •  Why would it be necessary to assert that the (0+ / 0-)

              missive was not from anonymous in order to question whether the missive was from anonymous, or even to question how and why someone else would conclude that the missive was, in fact, from anonymous?  Especially in the absence of a definitive response.

              To suggest that someone asking a question should shut up because they don't know something (assumably the answer to the question they are asking) seems particularly disconnected, if not purposefully off-putting.

              It seems curiosity has killed the cat that had my tongue.

              by Murphoney on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 06:07:53 PM PST

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    •  Thanks for this. (2+ / 0-)
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      We can discuss this without saying it's 100% true, and without engaging in childish piefights.

      "I read this- Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. I read every last word of this garbage, and because of this piece of $#!^ I'm never reading again!"-Officer Barbrady

      by Broke And Unemployed on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 07:29:46 AM PST

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    •  but when was stopping the bad guy anon's only goal (3+ / 0-)
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      they certainly splashed the proof around when they busted open the "corporate security" corporations.

      in the past, anon has taken steps to expose wrongdoing, not merely counter it.

      It seems curiosity has killed the cat that had my tongue.

      by Murphoney on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 07:35:50 AM PST

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    •  thank you for logical and rational words (1+ / 0-)
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      It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. ~~Joseph Stalin

      by SeaTurtle on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 07:52:09 AM PST

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    •  Can you link me to where they make this claim (0+ / 0-)

      about Rove?

      I respect Anonymous and have followed them for years.

      I didn't see them say anything about Rove, however.

    •  Sorry but it IS CT (0+ / 0-)

      to merely "suspect" something with no evidence and promote it so heavily it appears you think it's likely. It's about as likely as what one of our supervisors said one night when the mandate to get the early ballots from the board of elections to the warehouse where the counting is done got ahead of the means.

      He said, "I just need to get them there. I don't carry if fairies fly them over in the middle of the night, precinct by precinct."

      And if they did, people here would claim that Karl Rove had deployed an army of operatives with anti-fairy missiles to lurk in Jakprints' parking lot and shoot them down as they flew over Perkins Avenue.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

      by anastasia p on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 03:45:52 PM PST

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