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  •  Lets see what happens. (12+ / 0-)

    The GOP has only held the House for two years so far. Corruption can't be that far off knowing them. And there are 15 or so seats in Blue states that are flippable with the right kind of campaign. I agree its going to be pretty tough to do, but you never know.

    I do know that we don't need to deal with Social Security for at least another 25 years. I'd rather wait it out.

    •  No. I need to deal with it now. Turning 65 this (0+ / 0-)

      year and at the extreme low end.  This being my only source of income.

      •  Whatever changes are made (4+ / 0-)

        probably wont affect you at all. I'd rather wait until the demographics for our side get far more favorable.

      •  bbb is correct, any changes from the Begich plan (7+ / 0-)

        would most likely not affect your personal situation for more than two years, at best.

        If that will be your sole income, then I advise you to NOT WAIT until you apply for SS benefits, go this month to your local Medicaid/County Social Services and get an appointment to discuss the state level assistance you will become eligible for the first day of the first month after you turn 65.

        These benefits vary, from state to state.

        If you are also applying for Medicare Parts A,B and D at this time (if you are still under the 65 year eligibility age), there are additional assistance programs available to help pay some or all of your Medicare premiums and costs of prescription drug co-pays.

        At the state level, Medicaid, if your state guidelines determine you are eligible, may pay some or all of your premiums for Medicare. Reducing your out-of-pocket costs for medical care to Zero, for many fixed-income, low-income seniors.

        You will also likely be eligible for LIHEAP, which is Federal & State money combined for low-income people to get help paying power bills.

        In addition, in some areas, especially those with Public Utilities (non-profit power companies), if you meet certain guidelines, no matter whether or not you can pay your power bills in the winter/cold months, they WILL NOT turn off your power.

        Each state and county has it's own programs and guidelines.

        I hope you look for the assistance which such a low income will most certainly make you eligible for, both from Federal and State agencies. You can start at the national website for the Agency on Aging. They have non-profit administrative assistance available to help seniors jump through the paperwork hoops when starting on many of these programs.

        "I like paying taxes...with them, I buy Civilization" -- me

        by Angie in WA State on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 03:52:53 PM PST

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        •  I know my situation. Thank you. And I read the (0+ / 0-)

          Begich proposal.  Means more to me than you probably nots.

          Why don't you want to make Social Security better?

          We should totally be on board supporting this if we are truly progressives.

          •  with this comment, you've officially hit "spam" (0+ / 0-)

            velocity in this diary.

            I heard you the first 500 times.

            I support Medicare and Medicaid as much as anyone, more than many.

            I'm 51.

            I've worked at a private medical clinic serving mostly Medicare and Medicaid dual-eligible patients with no money and no resources.

            I've been treated at a hospital for emergency cardiac care, without any healthcare insurance.

            I am working poor since the age of 17.

            My home, which I've been clinging to by the skin of my teeth for nearly a decade now, is my retirement fund.

            Your continued bleating about "not caring about making Social Security better" has now gotten on my one last nerve.

            Are you insane? Do you think opening up a discussion about "making SS better" belongs on the menu when the opening Dish about to be recommended by the (still) House Majority Republicans (WHO WRITE EVERY BUDGET BILL, btw) is Austerity Stew?

            Do you have an iota of an idea of how legislation is created, and pushed through to the President's desk? Did you watch it take OVER TWO YEARS to get the Don't Ask Don't Tell program erased in the US Armed Forces?  And that didn't cost any money.

            Yes, I guess I may be overreacting here, but you are obviously oblivious to reality when it comes to "what I want from my government" and how to go about getting it.


            "I like paying taxes...with them, I buy Civilization" -- me

            by Angie in WA State on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 05:23:37 PM PST

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            •  akmk just has to click over to the website of (2+ / 0-)
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              the Honorable Allen West, where a big banner reads:
              Allen West:
              Protecting Medicare and Social
              Security For Floridas Seniors


              Now if akmk still wants to open up the SS/Medicare can of worms with people like Allen West hanging around s/he needs a strong drink and dose of political reality.
              (I know Wild West will be gone shortly (thk yew FSM), but his ilk still run the US House for the next two years plus, and there are many Democrats who are either Blue Dogs or quite weak on such issues. Perhaps good old Harry Reid can backstop this whole issue, with or without Obama, but I sure don't want to risk it.)

              "Double, double, toile and trouble; Fire burne, and Cauldron bubble... By the pricking of my Thumbes, Something wicked this way comes": Republicans Willkommen im Vierten Reich! Sie haben keine Bedeutung mehr.

              by Bluefin on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 06:53:16 PM PST

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          •  I agree with you. Social Security desperately (3+ / 0-)

            needs a "floor" to benefits.

            That cannot pass this Congress.

            Please advocate for it.  Please urge Senator Sanders to Co-Sponsor.  Please urge Harry Reid to bring it up for a vote in the Senate.

            Please try to educate people about it.  Please fight for it.

            It needs to happen, and it won't happen without thousands of dedicated people giving it all they have.

            But whatever you do, do not for a moment see it as your personal financial salvation in the near term, because there is absolutely no chance of it passing this House.

            "the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs."

            by JesseCW on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 05:40:21 PM PST

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      •  If you are turning 65 now (1+ / 0-)
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        you are not eligible for social security.  

    •  it's the CANDIDATES. We need to cultivate (0+ / 0-)

      new and better candidates and then work hard for them.

      I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... *I'm asking you to believe in yours.* Barack Obama

      by samddobermann on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 09:49:29 PM PST

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