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  •  It's different this time (1+ / 0-)
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    Many of the people who were responsible for her campaign's failures had already been fired by the time the primary was over. They won't be back this time. I actually read in a book recently that Hillary only won the New Hampshire primary (probably her greatest success of the campaign, given how far behind she started) because she largely ignored her team and took on more control herself.

    I'm not forgiving her for the campaign she ran in 2008, and if any of those people are back I will either support another candidate or focus on downballot races. I refuse to give my time to a campaign that doesn't value its organization or isn't committed to winning. But I think she's learned from her mistakes and will do things differently this time. Remember, the people who ran Obama's campaigns will be available this time and many of them will probably end up working for Hillary.

    "No, Governor Romney, corporations are not people. People have hearts, they have kids, they get jobs, they get sick, they cry, they dance. They live, they love, and they die. And that matters." --Elizabeth Warren

    by foreverblue on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 11:00:44 AM PST

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    •  Why do you think this? (2+ / 0-)
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      mightymouse, PorridgeGun
      Remember, the people who ran Obama's campaigns will be available this time and many of them will probably end up working for Hillary.
      You believe the belief they have in Barack Obama is easily transferable to Hilary just because?
      •  I didn't say that (1+ / 0-)
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        JamieG from Md
        You believe the belief they have in Barack Obama is easily transferable to Hilary just because?
        I don't see Axelrod, Plouffe, Messina, Cutter, Gibbs, etc. just outright retiring. I think most of them will want to stay active and work for someone and of those, most would end up with Hillary if she ran, as there doesn't seem to be an Obama-type candidate in the race who would attract that kind of talent.

        David Axelrod has personal ties to Hillary, in fact he considered not working for Obama in 2008 for this reason. I could absolutely see him working for her in 2016.

        Axelrod served as the chief strategist and media advisor for Obama's 2008 presidential campaign. Axelrod contemplated taking a break from the 2008 presidential campaign, as five of the candidates —Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, John Edwards, Chris Dodd, and Tom Vilsack — were past clients. Personal ties between Axelrod and Hillary Clinton also made it difficult, as she had done significant work on behalf of epilepsy causes for a foundation co-founded by Axelrod's wife and mother, Citizens United for Research in Epilepsy (CURE) (Axelrod's daughter suffers from developmental disabilities associated with chronic epileptic seizures.) Axelrod's wife even said that a 1999 conference Clinton convened to find a cure for the condition was "one of the most important things anyone has done for epilepsy."
        I'm not saying Obama's entire team would work for Hillary "just because", but I can see it happening.

        "No, Governor Romney, corporations are not people. People have hearts, they have kids, they get jobs, they get sick, they cry, they dance. They live, they love, and they die. And that matters." --Elizabeth Warren

        by foreverblue on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 11:17:10 AM PST

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    •  it was her judgment behind hiring of Penn, etc. (1+ / 0-)
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      PorridgeGun

      She is still the same person.

      I think of it like this - if I have a valuable cargo to transport, I don't put it in the hands of someone who had a serious accident due to lack of judgment.

      An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

      by mightymouse on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 11:26:57 AM PST

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      •  Mark Penn. Ugh. (1+ / 0-)
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        Did you have to remind me? I wonder how all the Rahm detractors would have enjoyed having Mark Penn as chief of staff?

        Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

        by anastasia p on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 02:15:29 PM PST

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