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  •  "Protection" is a scam. (2+ / 0-)
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    Lisa Lockwood, S F Hippie

    Protection presupposes a threat, not infrequently originating from the "protector." After all, the shepherd "protects" the sheep from the wolf so he, the protector, can eat the sheep later, at leisure.
    The problem, however, is threefold:

    1) the assumption that nature exists to be exploited by man as a resource and a repository of waste;

    2) the assumption that human behavior is good unless and until it is proven to be bad;

    3) the extension of 1 and 2 to artificial bodies (corporations) whose activities are much more powerful and potentially destructive than those of an individual person.

    In the beginning, it was assumed that artificial bodies, corporations, could be effectively limited by specifying their functions, duties and obligations ahead of time. But, as the law developed, the obligations of corporations shrank to just one -- making a profit. How that is accomplished and how it affects the natural environment was set aside and the impulse to exploit was set aside.

    Then there's the additional problem of the impulse towards segregation as a predicate for control.  Some humans become fixated on control and indulge in segregating various populations for no other purpose. The Constitution was initially designed to limit powers. Instead, especially in recent decades, our agents of government have preferred to extend their powers and limit their obligations to service a select constituency. It's a reflexive response to the push for popular control. Power-mavens are not keen to relinquish authority to the people. And that's true regardless of which political party they claim to be alligned with.

    Traditionally, Republicans ruled the people as if they had a royal mandate while Democrats claimed to act on behalf of the people. Neither party subscribed to the people governing. When Howard Dean said, "you have the power" to the grass roots, he challenged the establishment and had to be removed. His demise was engineered by the supporters of Richard Gebhardt, not the Republicans.

    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 03:36:34 PM PST

    •  That's a very thoughtful comment (3+ / 0-)
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      divineorder, S F Hippie, kurt

      That's a very thoughtful comment that points to the real problem - the corporate control over our government and institutions and increasing monopolization of political power by a ruling elite. That's the type of control that allows a guy like Panetta to praise alleged "marine protected areas" while overseeing military testing plans that will kill whales, dolphins, fish and other marine life in the same "marine protected areas." That's also the type of control that allows an ocean industrialist like Catherine Reheis-Boyd, president of the Western States Petroleum Association, to oversee the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force to create "marine protected areas" on the South Coast.

      •  Yes, but corporations (artificial bodies) are (2+ / 0-)
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        Lisa Lockwood, kurt

        created by legislative bodies (mostly states but some by Congress) and those bodies are, in turn, subservient to the electorate. Legislators across the board have been successful in denying their own culpability. They blame the executive, lobbyists,  private corporate pressure, the courts -- everyone but themselves.  But, if the effort to destroy unions in Wisconsin and Indiana and depriving the cities of Michigan of their charters should have taught us anything, it's that the legislators have the power and authority and, if they misuse the law to abuse individual rights, they need to be removed from office. There's a reason why these offices are up for review every two years.
        We need to remember that legislators and private corporations have a common interest and perspective. Legislative bodies are also corporations (public artificial bodies) organized for specific purposes and to provide the individual participants with personal immunity from the consequences of their actions by letting them delegate functions. This is a useful strategy because it lets people take risks that they would not take if their personal safety were at stake. Corporations can afford to be more innovative because there is someone to back people up in the event of error. What they risk is supposed to be limited by their limited mission. Of course, that's out the window when their mission is reduced to generating a profit or, in the case of punitive legislators not spending resources except to promote their own longevity in office.
        While I'm not in favor of fixed term limits, we out to be wary of people who hold on to public office for decades. Also, we need to question the claim of corporate distance from government. There never has been a time when enterprise didn't suckle at the public teat. "Free market" obviously refers to free resources being taken to market for a profit and the free enterprise ideal is not to have to give anything back. Now that our natural resources have either been depleted or all doled out as private property, legislators resort to contracting out their obligations to deliver public services, giving private corporations an easy and guaranteed profit. That gives us an advantage, if we bother to look at the accounts.

        We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

        by hannah on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 04:13:07 PM PST

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