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  •  Bernstein isn't a "villager", and supports reform (9+ / 0-)

    He's a professor of political science who lives in Austin, and he believes in liberal causes. He has a part-time gig with Greg Sargent's liberal blog at the Washington Post, but his personal blog is Plain Blog About Politics, which is an independent blog that discusses political science. Most of his overtly political posts come from a liberal perspective. He has repeatedly called out the Republican Party and media for their hyper-partisanship and frequently discusses the ill effects of "epistemic closure", aka the Republican echo chamber. He has thrown his hat in with the Democratic Party and voted for Barack Obama.

    Bernstein opposes "make them talk" filibuster reform not because he thinks it goes too far, but because he thinks it just gives a platform for the minority party to trash the majority party on camera, and he believes that filibuster reform needs to be more extreme in order to be effective. His favored approach to filibuster reform is to eliminate filibusters on executive branch nominees except at the discretion of the majority leader and create a yearly "superbill" that can be amended and enacted with 50 votes.

    You can disagree with him, but he's not the enemy.

    •  Incidentally, I do actually disagree with him to (7+ / 0-)

      some extent, in that I believe that requiring 40 senators present to uphold a filibuster rather than 60 present to end a filibuster is a significant reform, but my point is just that he isn't an enemy of liberal causes.

      •  Will the forty have to be in their seats ready to (0+ / 0-)

        push their vote button whenever one Democrat asks for the roll to be called?  Kinda add a little boredom to the whole exercise, for the republicans.

        Time is a long river.

        by phonegery on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 08:35:55 PM PST

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    •  Again, The GOP Already HAS That Opportunity... (0+ / 0-)

      ...and yet they choose to hide behind the "procedural 'filibuster'" instead. Ergo, Bernstein's argument fails.

      On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

      by stevemb on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 05:03:30 AM PST

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      •  Doesn't excuse false ad hominem attacks (1+ / 0-)
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        On the merits, I too have some disagreements with Bernstein, as I have previously discussed. The point is, reasonable people can disagree on important issues, and Bernstein is a reasonable person. In fact, you would probably agree with a lot of his views. There's no point in calling him names. He isn't David Brooks or some other Beltway concern troll or tut tutter. He is a smart, reform-minded man who dissents with most of dailykos on a single topic on which he has plenty of historical perspective. No need to call him names.

        •  Perhaps Mr. Bernstein's POV (1+ / 0-)
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          comes from being a liberal in Texas.  Maybe he's accustomed to seeing the vast majority of the population in his area drinking Rush kool-aid on a daily basis.

          He may not be aware that right wing talking points don't sell very well to most Americans these days.

          His intentions are good, but perhaps he's misreading the potential impact of GOP talking filibusters.

          Please stand by. I'm looking for a new sig line.

          by Betty Pinson on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 08:27:20 AM PST

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          •  Our experience with the passage of Obamacare (0+ / 0-)

            suggests otherwise. Republicans can always come up with justifications for why legislation "needs more time" and is being "rammed through congress" and needs "adjustments" which they have no intention of passing, and the result is that the legislation becomes less popular and the majority party gets the blame for dysfunction in a chamber they nominally control. Republicans can always find some ginned up controversy which they can use to argue against a judge indefinitely, and as a result the judge becomes "controversial" and "partisan". I just don't see how the talking filibuster solves this problem. If we had a media that accurately and thoroughly reported on the minutia of happenings on the senate floor and an American audience captivated by senate procedure and willing to vote against those who abuse it, we would not need to discuss filibuster reform. But there is nothing in the reform proposal stopping 45 senators from rotating unopposed speeches against everything the majority wants to do. Such reform is not sufficient to make the filibuster politically or physically difficult. We need more.

            But this is really beside the point, which is that the name-calling against Bernstein is inappropriate given his consistent dedication to liberal principles and reality-based analysis by political outsiders.

    •  Of course...because they don't have this now... (3+ / 0-)
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      because he thinks it just gives a platform for the minority party to trash the majority party on camera,

      are you kidding...

      THAT IS THE POINT!    We want the public to understand that it is the minority that is obstructing, not majority that isn't doing their jobs.  You can go as far as Dem's haven't passed a budget to get the point.

      Jeez...Democrats....perfect illustration below...

      "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

      by justmy2 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 06:36:32 AM PST

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