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  •  I agree with much of what you wrote, but (3+ / 0-)

    If we don't get something done by 2014 we're going to space on election like we did in 2010.  With the gerrymandeing its going to be hard to take the House, and I think our map isn't exactly friendly in the senate.  (We're defending 18 and they're defending 12 Plus we're defending LA,AK,AR, MT, and SD.)  The only blue state they are defending is ME.  We pulled off some big upsets over the last coulpe of cycles, but if we have a GOP controlled Senate for the last two years of Obama's second term, then his entire presidency will be defined by two years of progressive legislation and 6 years of partisan gridlock domestically and capable and sober leadership on foreign policy.  The problem is that most people don't care about that so much.  Foreign things only mater when they are screwed up royally.

    The point being that we need to be realistic.  Who is on our bench?  Gillibrand, Warren, maybe Schweitzer, I'd love to see Grayson, but that's a long shot.  Hell, it's not impossible that we see Crist make a play for it.  They're figures are known nationally.  Ours aren't so well.  (Of course neither was Obama until the 2004 convention).

    But, as you accurately suggest, many of their superstars are damaged goods.

    Jindal?  Too dark, screwed up his national debut.

    Christie?  He'll have the same problem Crist did.  Too many photos of him with Obama after Sandy.

    Bush?  They'll need a rebranding on that one.

    So we may very well win again in 2016, but that depends, in part, on our way overperforming our 2010 results in 2014.

    That, in part could be helped by ballot initiatives meant to appeal to the young, black, and female.  It also will depend on GOTV.

    I agree, however, that the GOP is screwed.  The only real question is if they're not going to ruin the rest of the country before they are well and truly fucked.

    Ceterum censeo Factionem Republicanam esse delendam.

    by journeyman on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 09:39:01 PM PST

    •  All I got is my opinion. (4+ / 0-)

      If history/past performance count for as much as Cillizza thinks, the GOP may come roaring back at mid-terms. They're good at that.

      Even if Obama stays focused on the economy at the expense of foreign policy, and the unemployment rate drops dramatically, and the economy takes off...the voters don't necessarily "reward" progressive and liberal candidates for that improvement. People who don't know how much they depend on advocacy via government--vote for candidates they "like," or for candidates who tell them any BS they want to hear at the moment.

      And the conservative media makes a big difference at mid-terms. So I don't think the GOP's done. They practice class war, the well-off against the not-well-off--and that's never "done." I think they re-tailor their presentation to suit the demographics. And they keep the same crap, sociopathic/plutocratic agenda...with minor adjustments to bring in the necessary votes.

      Co-author of the first political biography of Michele Bachmann: Michele Bachmann's America

      by Bill Prendergast on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 10:20:48 PM PST

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      •  Short memory spans (4+ / 0-)
        Even if Obama stays focused on the economy at the expense of foreign policy, and the unemployment rate drops dramatically, and the economy takes off...the voters don't necessarily "reward" progressive and liberal candidates for that improvement.
        I will never forget being at work at a company up in the Bay Area, just at the beginning of the dotcom implosion and hearing someone say now might be a good time to have an MBA guy as President.

        It did not matter that Al Gore was on the team that ushered in the greatest economic expanse in modern memory and left behind a surplus.

        Even with fresh memories of boom times, the country delivered a tight race and the Supreme Court handed the Presidency to an MBA guy whose most recent business had gone bankrupt.

        Buy hey, it was time for a change and besides he was the kind of a guy you'd want to have a beer with. And he talked about "compassionate conservatism" So it was a fresh start. The economy was going to boom again without all that Clinton scandal stuff--which is to say non-scandals manufactured by the right, just like they're doing right now.

        The choice of our lifetime: Mitt Romney, It Takes A Pillage or President Barack Obama, Forward Together.

        by FiredUpInCA on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 10:57:36 PM PST

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