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  •  I understand the concern (12+ / 0-)

    There are some significant differences in the modern USA, to the situation in Germany in the 1920s.

    While it is useful to take note of the similarities, if we are to remain grounded we must also accept that the differences are equally pertinent, and they rule out a repeat of that terrible crime.

    There are people who would take us down the road of uber-nationalism, but the structural differences here will simply not allow it.

    It would be telling if the Right Libertarians ever gained significant ground, or if there were a real upswell of militias, but that isn't happening.

    It is usually the case that those outliers have a louder voice during times of economic recession, a voice which retreats during better economic conditions.

    In Germany those factors, and a few others, came together in a "perfect storm". It is unlikely to happen here.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 05:52:08 AM PST

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    •  Except we do have (8+ / 0-)

      economic problems here at home.

      We are locking up dark skinned folks by the millions (we may not be killing them literally but we are killing them).

      And it only took 10% of the German public to rise up....  That's the Tea Party folks who carry their guns around.... the militias.

      We are overspending on our military.

      Those are the parts of history that I see repeating.

      But your comment does give me some hope and I will try and keep it in mind when I am worried.

      -6.13 -4.4 Where are you? Take the Test!!!

      by MarciaJ720 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 05:58:05 AM PST

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      •  Up to a point we have economic woes (14+ / 0-)

        But Germany in 1929 was in a desperate state.

        The Wiemar Republic had borrowed heavily to pay reparations to the allies after WW I.

        They could not meet the payments and hyper-inflation hit their economy literally leaving the currency valueless. People were taking their life-savings simply to buy groceries for the week .... the wheel barrow was worth more than the money filling it!

        People were jobless and starving on a massive scale and a proud nation was dying.

        Into that came a charismatic leader promising a return to sanity, and jobs. He had a handy scapegoat because the German people had already bought the lie that the Jews were responsible for all the financial ills. They weren't, actually, but truth always takes a hit when folk are desperate.

        Even Adolph Hitler, even in those times, had to get elected. He had tried violent revolution and had been imprisoned for it.

        So a few similarities do not make a climate suitable for another Hitler ... although eternal vigilance is never a bad thing.

        I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
        but I fear we will remain Democrats.

        by twigg on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 06:21:14 AM PST

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    •  Agreed. (4+ / 0-)
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      twigg, Lefty Ladig, DvCM, greengemini

      I certainly don't agree with those who say "It could never happen here", but the US at present has some very strong counterbalances in place. From my perspective, there are always potential Hitlers (read profoundly unbalanced individuals with devastating potential), but they require an alignment of a very complex array of factors.

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