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  •  I've spent at least half of my adult life homeless (4+ / 0-)
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    Avilyn, wader, mookins, trumpeter

    I'm not a vagrant.

    Vagrant is not an academically accepted term and as I said quite inflammatory which is why I called you on it and used another disparagement that was also last used in the same time period to show how outdated the term is.

    "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 08:12:06 AM PST

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    •  well, different people in different parts of (1+ / 0-)
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      the country use different language, sometimes people use language that's quite un politically correct. I seriously doubt, despite our disagreements, that your lifestyle is anything like the lifestyle of the people in that gallery, and other vagrants in my town, who, again, cheerfully (when they're sober enough to communicate) acknowledge they're not looking for homes,

      •  No this isn't colloquial framing of a subgroup (5+ / 0-)

        The sociological dynamics of homeless existence creates active efforts to avoid cohesion. The type of cohesion required for something as consistent as language development is not there.

        Please post links of the term being used in multiple locations to prove your assertion that the term is the use of language to empower instead of demean.

        "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

        by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 08:30:38 AM PST

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        •  I don't know about "multiple locations" I know (1+ / 0-)
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          chantedor

          only what the street people here in my town and in my county tell me personally, and also what other people (social workers, police, volunteers who clean up the camps, my friend Juice the surveyer, who is brave and compassionate enough to go where the cops won't go, and business owners) tell me also.

          They tell me they don't like being called "the homeless" because it defines them in terms of something they are lacking, and assumes they are failures who can't get "a home," when they're not actually seeking one.

          As far as links, well, Horace, there's a real world, and in my real world, the street vagrants we talk to locally, the ones that live under the bridges and shit in the creeks and are in the police log over and over again, are not the sort of "homeless" people who live in their cars and take their laptops to the library parking lot to log in to the internet to tend their blog.

          The library does have a few computers, and some of our local street vagrants do hang out at the library during the early part of the day. So certainly I suppose it's possible some of them post about how they're not "homeless," they are living as wild vagrants on the street.  But I don't know of any links.

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