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  •  This doesn't negate (17+ / 0-)

    that he picked Geithner, right?

    I think the President has done amazing things, but I'd love to see him right now just say:

    Entitlements are off the table.  Take it or leave it.

    And just be done with the whole "grand bargain" thing.

    A lot of us were sorely disappointed with the endless pursuit of reasoned debate and engagement from Boner and co.

    He was never going to get it, and he gave away the store over and over before negotiations ever started.

    I have no problem asking him not to do that again.

    Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. Barack Obama

    by delphine on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 08:57:33 AM PST

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    •  Fine! I get that! (3+ / 0-)
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      My comments were addressed to Mr. Moore not you!  Given his past comments, Mr. Moore is the last person who should be speaking for the progressive left. And frankly, those of you who were disappointed in Obama's first term should be much harder on people like Mr. Moore than I am. Speaking of disappointment, you should be disappointed when Mr. Moore and others like him muddy your concerns with the expectation that Mr. Obama behave a certain way because of his race. You should be the most interested in separating the signal from the noise.

      •  So, You Don't Have a Problem with the Substance (5+ / 0-)

        of the list? You have a problem with the person who wrote it?

        "The problem with posting quotes off the Internet is you never know if they're genuine."--Gen. George Washington at the Battle of Gettysburg, February 30, 1908

        by Aspe4 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 11:03:54 AM PST

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        •  Both. (3+ / 0-)
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          I think that Mr. Moore's statements undermine his credibility. Somebody who believes Obama is too white isn't capable of speaking to the substance of what Obama has done or needs to do.  I think that someone who believes that a lack of progress on issues is primarily a function of Obama's race isn't capable of understanding the basics of how things get done in Washington. In that sense, I think this letter is a meaningless appeal to the President by someone who completely over-determines the significance of Obama's race.

          I think that we are better served by those who offer practically feasible, actionable suggestions to the President and by those who recognize that it is the Republicans, not Obama or his excess whiteness that is the primary obstacle to progress in Washington.

          •  That's like I don't want (2+ / 0-)
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            either Rice (Susan or Condolezza) to carry out and implement "black" foriegn policy.

            I want a Herman Cain to at least attempt to sell me on tax cuts, lesser government regulations, more social conservatism, etc.

            I don't want hinm to attempt to sell to me that this is the black way and the black reason(s) for doing those things (and I surely don't want him actining like the fool-ass co... that he was acting like in the primaries (although that's what the Dixiecrats wanted at that time: a minstrel)

      •  so you're saying, "Michael Moore's a Racist?" (2+ / 0-)
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        moore's a great voice of the left... you've blown his statement WAY out of proportion and way out of context.  you don't get to "declare" michael moore invalid on the basis of your feigned outrage.  that's the tea party technique... it's disgusting there, and just as disgusting here.

        if you want to argue that michael moore is racist, make a diary about it... this i want to see.  it's so bullshit.

        michael moore is a huge asset to the left.  so, obviously, is obama.  so - apparently, am i and other liberals like me.  if you don't like the fact that we have actual opinions that we actually want to get out there for the general discourse - both in our party and in the greater political realm, buck up.

        Romney in a landslide!

        by jj24 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 12:54:16 PM PST

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        •  I disagree. (1+ / 0-)
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          I don't believe he's a huge asset to the left, but that's a matter of my opinion. Nonetheless, he is a public figure and as such can and should be criticized when he expresses his disappointment that Obama isn't black enough.

          And as for your ridiculous charges that my criticisms are similiar to those made by the Tea Party, I could just as easily say that you're no different than Republicans like Reince Priebus who get all upset when folks like Chris Matthews call them out for race baiting. They yell and scream that such charges are a "distraction" too.  I could say that but I won't because such a game is self-evidently ridiculous.

          Michael Moore made the statement that he made. He's responsible for it, not me.

          •  your assertion that moore's the "last person" (6+ / 0-)

            who should be speaking for the progressive left due to his "past comments" - actually a singular comment - repeating what Bill Maher said about voting for the black guy and getting the white guy (Bill Maher's joke, to Bill Maher's audience, in Bill Maher's style).

            that's a tea party-esque attack on MM, absolutely.  so - i'm calling your tea party-esque bluff.  Is MM a racist?  Give the argument.  Because either (in this context)

            a) MM said something that some people, like you, get offended by, or

            b) MM's a racist who let the cat out of the bag inadvertently, whose statement reflects an inner racism - a betrayal of progressive left values.

            you're smearing him like it's #b - when in fact, you hardly have a case to be offended as described in #a.  the last 12 years has been marked with astoundingly great people on the left who have gotten summarily ruined by bullshit smears like this.  talk about something i'm "sick of" - this is it.  you don't reward the kind of service MM has given the liberal community with shit like this that doesn't even close to reflect his values.

            Romney in a landslide!

            by jj24 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 01:33:37 PM PST

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