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  •  EPA put out oil and gas fracking rules... (3+ / 0-)
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    earlier this year that will require "green completions" on a lot of fracking operations.

    The target was capturing volatile organic compounds that react with sunlight to form ozone ("ozone precursors")....happily this means methane will be captured.

    The methane that's captured will be additional product that can be sold (methane = natural gas), incidentally.

    The downside is the rules don't kick in til 2015.  But the rules are there.

    “Better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference.” -- FDR, 1936

    by SolarMom on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 08:30:36 PM PST

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      for fleshing this issue out. Typically gas wells simply have venting massive amounts of methane during start-up, evenv though methane is a cash commodity. Stupid a----s.

      How dumb can these guys get?

      Natural gas and its byproducts' storage is also a big emissions source, hopefully that is controlled by the regs you cited.

      •  Not really (0+ / 0-)

        State rules on the oil and gas industry in place for years control methane emissions from well completions and natural gas distribution.

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          Some states have controls.  Others do not.  That's why Congress created federal standards 40 years ago.  When EPA gets around to setting the federal standards, they have to survey the states, see who has real rules, and incorporate those rules into the federal standard.  Basically, level the playing field for those states who stuck their neck out.  Will take a while, but this is what's next.

          By the way, EPA can do about 80% of Waxman-Markey laid out without any legislation.  I wrote a law journal article about that last year (published by Fordham).  It's less intensive than many think.  And less industry friendly than many may fear.  

        •  Thanks for your (0+ / 0-)

          Participation in this thread. Much of what you've written is new to me. I appreciate it.

          FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

          by Roger Fox on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 02:54:22 PM PST

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        •  Al Armendariz' (0+ / 0-)

          2009 report on the Barnett Shale indicated that gas drilling, storage, and transportation emissions of methane and conventional pollutants were poorly controlled, allowing 33k ton /day of greenhouse/methane emissions.

          Since state regs usually cover only non-methane hydrocarbons, I haven't stumbled actual regs on methane itself.

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