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  •  Well, he has (3+ / 0-)
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    PeterHug, erush1345, lyvwyr101

    a much fiercer pro-I bias than I do, so usually I don't jump into those frays.  I"ll leave it to him to comment on what he has to say, if he wants to.  I don't assume you and he are going to reach any sort of agreement, so it's probably not worth the effort.

    As for war crimes, I'm not even sure if a terrorist attack is considered a 'war crime' is it?  Since it's not exactly part of a war.  I do consider direct targets on civilians--if that is the intent, to be criminal. I don't consider a Hamas attack on a tank, for example, to be criminal--but I do consider things like suicide bombings to be.

    As for the Israelis--I honestly believe that--as with the U.S. in Iraq, or the U.S. drones in Pakistan, the intent is not to target civilians--but because the responses are so immeasurably huge, civilians do die.  I  don't see this as a war-crime so much as extremely heavy-handed response--so perhaps unjust in the manner of the scale of warfare.  I mean--if someone from the next town throws a rock at you, do you drop a ton of bricks on them?   Israel thinks yes.  The UN thinks no.  I do think that, while the deaths of 110+ Palestinians in this particular event is awful, the targeting capabilities of the Israelis have prevented those deaths from reaching thousands.  

    So the 'war crime' thing is something I don't agree with.  Some have referenced the 'white phosphorous' use in 2008--and to be honest I'm not familiar enough with the details of these reports to know where those fit in.

    Anyway I'm off to sleep--

    •  I'm off to sleep in a moment as well, (6+ / 0-)

      but I will say this, and I think you'll agree with me, Palestinian civilians are not collateral damage.  Whether you'll agree with the following is something else: If Israel was not trying to target Palestinian civilians, it would not be targeting them, which it is doing all the time, even when there is not an "official" war--see, e.g., the blockade of Gaza and the ever-constricting and deathly colonization of the West Bank.

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