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  •  First Crist and now Christie unless you hate (0+ / 0-)

    Obama you have no chance. Remember if you think a guy is a illegal Muslim Marxist Socialist Nazi thug who used drug money  and the New Black Panther party to win elections (and then killed his gay lover) you really can't support a guy who stand with this type of a person.

    -1.63/ -1.49 "Speaking truth to power" (with snark of course)!

    by dopper0189 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 10:10:58 AM PST

    •  The difference between Crist and Christie (0+ / 0-)

      The difference is that the wingnuts won't be able to primary Christie here.  I'll register Republican for the primary if the wingnuts try to villify Christie for embracing Obama in a time of disaster or cram a social warrior down our throats.  NJ isn't that stupid, even the Republicans (who, quite honestly, are in large part leftover Rockefeller Republicans, and less like modern times mouthbreathers).

      I know as Dem partisans here, you guys like to see batshit crazy candidates from the far right clear the way for the Dems to win easily just by not being mentally insane, but I'd rather see the best person from both sides.  

      •  Did you think Delaware had that many crazies? (0+ / 0-)

        Ayotte almost lost in NH. Indiana had a history of electing Senators that try to reach across the isle. There are a LOT of very conservative Republicans in Southern NJ. By the way it's not that I think Christie will be successfully primaried, I just don't think he can now win a national primary. Do you think GOP caucus goers in Iowa and Nevada, and primary voters in South Carolina are the forgiving type?

        -1.63/ -1.49 "Speaking truth to power" (with snark of course)!

        by dopper0189 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 12:27:40 PM PST

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        •  Nationally (0+ / 0-)

          Nationally, it's harder for me to say.  One thing I have seen in Christie that makes him a potentially transformational candidate on the Republican side is that his brashness, which would come off as being a total dick for most people, is actually viewed as a strength for him.  Whatever it is about Christie's personality, he can say totally offensive things and it just seems to be a natural part of his personality (contrast to Romney, who actually is a total dick, if he said the things that Christie says, he's be villified).

          Maybe it just works in NJ where people kind of expect you to tell them off if they piss you off, but I kind of hope it translates nationally.  The reason is that, while Christie is quite conservative on most economic & budgetary issues, he is not in lock step with them on the social issues.  He has been wishy washy on abortion and marriage equality (I know he vetoed the marriage equality bill, but his explanation was procedural and not fire and brimstone) and publically supports other gay rights, which is at least far more moderate than the GOP platform.  The way his personality is, he is the one person who could stand up during a GOP primary and say "rape is not a gift from God and it's outrageous to force a woman to carry a rape baby to term" or "evolution is not just a theory with a lot of holes, it's established science, let's not willfully make our kids dumber" because of the way he is able to say things bluntly that people don't like and not sound like a dick doing it.  In other word, I really think he alone has the ability to force a referendum within their party on the stupid and hateful that is costing them election after election.

          If he does that and loses anyway, the GOP really is destined to be a fringe minority party.  If he defeats the clinically insane wing of the party, then I don't mind having a national debate on real issues like the economy and labor and national security and foregin policy.  It's much better for the country for both parties to just get past the stupid and hateful and debate real issues.

          •  Christie on choice (0+ / 0-)
            He has been wishy washy on abortion
            How so?  I think the only thing he's done to piss off the antis is choose a pro-choice Lieutenant Governor, but other than that, I think he's pretty much toeing their line.  

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