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  •  This may be how it started but... (1+ / 0-)
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    How long ago did those wage control regulations disappear?  

    Not everything we see is a conspiracy but people do make decisions that benefit their bottom lines and often those decisions, taken by themselves, do seem nefarious.

    I didn't even think my comment seemed controversial in any way.  Businesses absolutely use the H1B visas as a means to have lower competitive wages and to control their workers abilities to competitively market their skill sets.  companies absolutely know that providing beneifits give them some level of security that some workers iwll be afraid to leave.  My wife works in medical billing where many women work their strictly for the benefits. Their husbands have their own businesses and cannot afford healthcare.  Their boss knows this and treats them like crap because she knows there is nothing they can do about it.  She did not treat my wife like crap because she knows that my wife would tell them to shove it.  

    Student loans also require that young college graduates are forced into the labor force at whatever salary they can get for whatever job they can land do to the end of deferments.  I thought this was simply accepted as truth and did not even warrant evidence.  

    "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

    by Buckeye Nut Schell on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 02:23:45 PM PST

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    •  Then you must be a big fan of the likes (0+ / 0-)

      of Walmart who don't offer their employees health care.

      By your reasoning they're totally free, not under mind numbing control at all.  

      Like the song goes "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. . . . "

      All that aside, my comment that seems to have really irked you and a couple others was merely an attempt to set the historical record straight.  That's all.  

      •  Nothing you said irked me... (0+ / 0-)

        I tried to make a comment about how employers use healthcare as a means of bonding their employees to their crappy jobs as opposed to starting their own business to compete.

        Walmart has no respect for their employees and consider them easily replacable.  The system is rigged against small business start-ups that could compete against Wal-mart and they have no fear of any competition from any small business (or any real anti-trust litigation for that matter).  

        You seem to be taking this much more personal than I am(or anyone else I have read from my perspective).  My initial comment wasn't meant to be at odds with yours.  It was intended to add another reason we have the current system in place as opposed to a single payer system.  Your fact about WWII benefits was informative without the inclusion of:

        not really some nefarious peon control mechanism .  . .
        Everything up until that point added nicely to the conversation.

        "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

        by Buckeye Nut Schell on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 07:20:24 AM PST

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        •  The thing is, the employer based health (1+ / 0-)
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          started in WW2 when the GOVERNMENT put in place wage controls.

          It was the PRIVATE EMPLOYERS who tried to get around this - that is benefit the workers - by offering some juicy plums like health insurance.

          So in this particular story, they're not really the bad guys, seriously, they're not!  And that's basically the historical record for anybody who cares to look it up.

          •  Yes, that's how it started (0+ / 0-)

            But is not the case now.

            Now it's used as a threat over workers to keep them in line. That's why business hasn't backed single payer, which would let them completely off the hook when it comes to health care, lowering their costs.

            Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

            by splashy on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 02:40:19 AM PST

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