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  •  Funny what attracts the religious, then (33+ / 0-)

    Those who made this food we're about to pray over are to go without health care and we're to pay higher prices so that the lying owner or CEO can pocket more money and spit on the Kenyan Muslim pretender in what should be a whites-only White House, amen.  

    "Injustice wears ever the same harsh face wherever it shows itself." - Ralph Ellison

    by KateCrashes on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 08:00:27 PM PST

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    •  Oh yeah, and then there's that...:( (32+ / 0-)

      Still, I don't believe anywhere close to the majority of this country feels this way.  The election proved that, imo.

      But republican business people are as caught up in that embarrassing bubble of ignorance as the rest of their ilk. We need to smoke them out.

      Which is why I don't just stop buying from someone, whether it be Papa John's or Macy's or whomever.  No, I send a spray of e-mails to, as Ricky Ricardo would say,  "splain" myself."

      And to you Kate, and all and any of you reading this, let me ASSURE you that your complaint to ANY company who hopes to make money off you, counts. Of course it counts a lot more if there's lots of other emails like yours.

      Let me tell you something I believe about Macy's.  They can't pull that holiday Trump ad right now without as much political consequence from the right as they're already experiencing from the left. This is the conundrum they've put themselves in for mixing politics with business.

      (And y'know, I fear they were possibly just too detached to see that the Donald had become much WORSE than just the irritating, bloviating, A-hole he's always been. Which is not a good comment on a company that's supposed to have its thumb on the pulse and the trends, but I digress.)

      But I'll betcha a Mitt ten thousand, that they're just hanging on for dear life till the holidays are over, at which point, the Donald might find himself never featured in a Macy's ad again.  

      After all, who needs this shit?    

      "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

      by StellaRay on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 08:25:05 PM PST

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      •  How popular is Trump on the right, really? (10+ / 0-)

        I'm not sure there would be nearly the backlash from conservative minded consumers for dropping Trump as there is from liberal minded consumers for keeping him.

        He is not taken all that seriously I think.  Of course, I might be very wrong.  The reactive nature of the conservatives has gotten out of hand...

      •  Macy's is actually a pretty low class store... (7+ / 0-)

        Seriously, their brand presence is pretty horrible schlock.

        They want to be portrayed as something they're not.

        When you realize Donald Trump IS the Macy's brand, it's not a question of sacrificing anything for the boycott.

        Who in Void's name would want to be associated with a brand (Trump) that has always reveled in absolute tastelessness to a level that has only been approached in the movie Pink Flamingoes?

        •  this was not the case until the past (1+ / 0-)
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          decade or so

          well, i was stuck here in michigan without a macys till recently and was disappointed by what showed up.

          i am a macys customer since i was a toddler, literally, as i grew up in the new york metropolitan area.

          it isn't saks or Bergdorf Goodman, but had high quality stuff for most of its business life.

          i've talked in person to a macys representative from new york about the awful stuff stocked in their lansing michigan stores.  a baby, she had no idea what their real competition was or that macys used to stock yard goods and sewing materials.

          the current crop of 'businessmen' don't know a damn thing about their brand's history.  you can't really buy decently made, well designed clothing anymore unless you go to a specialty brand.

          it is now easy for me to boycott macys as even their credit card practices are insane.  i recently bought a few things i needed for the start of school and paid off the entire bill one day late.  the next day, i got a call from India insisting that i owed the xxx when i had already paid xxx.  no matter how many times i explained that i had already paid it the day before, the looney on the other end could not deviate from her script.  i asked to speak to her superior who said that that the payment would not register for another day or so.  he apologized and deducted my late payment fee for the trouble, but i am just not going to deal with a company that has such ridiculous policies.  last night, i watched 'the best marigold hotel' which has a scene just like this in it where the indian caller treats the poor woman on the other end whose husband has died exactly the same way.  'we must speak to the account holder.  but the account holder, my husband, is dead.  we must speak to the account holder.'

          i think these loonies actually believe their bubble and and happy to give them the news: the majority of us out here don't come close to agreeing with you.

          they really are this stupid.

          i think the adage needs to change: mix your business with the right politics: politics which is truly patriotic.

          trump actually defines stupidity, bad taste and anti-americanism.  macys is going to learn that the hard way.

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          by BlueDragon on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 09:38:31 AM PST

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      •  Did you see Trump on David Letterman (16+ / 0-)

        when he was railing about jobs being sent overseas because of Obama, and Dave looked closely at a Macy's tie Trump had brought, and it was made in China? It was priceless. Trump was literally speechless, and you don't see that too much.

        Friends don't let friends vote Republican.

        by OhioNatureMom on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 07:09:41 AM PST

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      •  I agree, plus maybe a NYC angle too? (2+ / 0-)
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        I also think that Macy's didn't really think through how polarizing Donald Trump has become.  Macy's roots are as the iconic NYC department store - as in that commercial - as in Miracle on 34th Street.  Prior to going full metal birther, Donald Trump was primarily known as a famous (infamous?) NYC businessman - and I'm thinking that is what Macy's could have been looking for.  Especially considering that Macy's is nationwide now.
        However....I agree - Macy's should have known better than to put Donald Trump out there.  To me, Macy's misstep is far less offensive than the stupidity that is Papa John's pizza.  
        And yes, money is green - not red or blue!

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