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  •  i'm sorry, but i'm on the receiving end of this (5+ / 0-)

    they DO cite the Old Testament. Almost Every. Single. Time.

    Why are you arguing against our actual experiences? It is not our fault, as gay people, that fundamentalist Christians use YOUR book wrong.

    pseudoscience can kill

    by terrypinder on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 06:33:03 PM PST

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    •  I'm not arguing against YOUR experiences (1+ / 0-)
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      CroneWit

      I have lesbian family members and friends.  

      What they argue to you I don't know.

      And it's not your fault that fundies use my book wrong.

      It would be your fault if you use the name of my book to refer to the fundies' misuse of what's in it.  And to claim that the NT repairs the defects of what's in it.

      Just as it would be your fault if you use "Obamacare" to refer to death panels and government dictating to doctors.  Regardless of how many times you've been on the receiving end of people using the term wrong.

      •  i'm sorry but i disagree with your thesis (2+ / 0-)
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        i think you're seeing antisemitism where it isn't there, at least here, on this website.

        Also, you've raised another question. Why do you get to decide whether using the term "old testament" (which is, in fact, a book full of barbarity and violence) as a synonym for what we in this modern era would describe as barbarous is wrong? It isn't just your faith's book anymore. It's shared with Christianity, and facets of it are in the Koran.

        pseudoscience can kill

        by terrypinder on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 07:05:06 PM PST

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        •  I never said I saw anti-semitism on this website (1+ / 0-)
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          The OT is no more barbaric than is the NT.  

          You can call the slaying of the Amalekites barbaric if you wish.  But you also have to call barbaric the view that God had intercourse with Mary, left her a virgin, and made their boy into a god and then tortured him to death so that everybody who believed the story would go to heaven regardless of whether they were good or bad, while everybody who disbelieved the story would get thrown into a perpetual lake of fire.

          The problem was not just that OT was used as code for barbarism, but, as the lead of the diary said, that "somehow people of kindness and decency had given [it] up, presumably in favor of the more compassionate 'New Testament'".  In short, that the Jewish bible was not just cruel and violent with respect to modern sensibilities, but also with respect to the Christian one that came after.

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