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  •  They read both Old and New Testaments (5+ / 0-)

    very selectively, picking and choosing. They don't much care for the Sermon on the Mount and the Beatitudes or the parts in Leviticus that ban them from wearing poly-cotton blends and eating shellfish--and I don't think they really like or understand First Corinthians at all--but the like to quote Paul and Leviticus on women  being silent and obedient and women  having to prove they were raped and homosexuality. Overall they seem to prefer the OT god who is rather unforgiving, prone to temper tantrums if not propitiated enough, and given to teasing men like Abraham by forcing them to prove their loyalty  by sacrificing their offspring (note: Jeptha vowed to slay the firsy living thing he saw upon returning home if God gave thim victory; when it turned out to be his daughter, God didn't intervene--I've raised this with born-agains and said it seems to indicate YHWH doesn't really care abotu daughters and they're left fumbling because they don't know the story), WHo doesn't behave in what I would condider a basically decent human manner. They like a lot better than Jesus who tells us to care for our neighbor and forgive others and not to judge--which requires a lot more work than merely tithing and reading the Bible.

    The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

    by irishwitch on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 08:20:58 PM PST

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    •  The "OT god" is a New Testiment notion (0+ / 0-)

      Since I don't think you're a Christian (I refer to irishwitch), you should not uncritically assume that the way Christians read the Hebrew scripture is in keeping with anything other than Christianity.

      For a text as old, as long and as difficult as the group of books gathered as scriptural by the Jews, it goes without saying that it matters a lot what you bring to the table when you read and attempt to interpret them.  Christians bring a vastly different set of ideas to that table than most Jews did when the Temple still stood in Jerusalem, or that rabbinical interpreters brought to it over the succeeding 500 years.

      My guess is that while you probably do not define yourself as Christian, the ideas you bring to that table are to a large extent Roman Catholic.  As such, you look at the texts in a much different way than anyone from a Jewish perspective (modern or ancient) would bring.

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      by mbayrob on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 09:47:48 PM PST

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