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  •  I was watching... (none)
    Chris Matthews, and he painted the whole thing as "the Senate members are going to trust each other to do what's right." Part of the reason I have such a hard time seeing how this is good is the fact that I can't believe the Dems would be so gullible as to agree to anything that is founded on them trusting Frist.

    "There are some bad people on the right." - Morrissey

    by modchick65 on Mon May 23, 2005 at 06:34:08 PM PDT

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    •  "extraordinary circumstances" (none)
      ...the Democratic Senators reserved the right to filibuster Bush's judicial nominees in "extraordinary circumstances" -- and each individual Senator is allowed to decide what those circumstances are.
      •  I'm worried (none)
        that we will not get 41 Dems to filibuster the next Clarence Thomas clone whom Bush will appoint to the Supreme Court.

        But on balance I'm glad we made this deal, because sadly the so-called GOP moderates didn't have the guts to just do the right thing, and I'd rather have this deal than lose a nuclear option vote 51-49.

        •  That's the thing (none)
          Besides, now, instead of trying to imitate the winners of the Colicky Baby Contest, we need to put pressure on the GOP Senators to vote down the three bad 'uns when they hit the Senate floor.

          Don't forget, Trent Lott's amenable to persuasion.  He's wanted to blacken Frist's and Rove's eyes ever Rove moved to zap Lott as Majority Leader and replace him with Catkiller.

    •  they're not trusting Frist (none)
      Frist would never have agreed to this deal. They are trusting the moderates who signed the deal.

      We need not stride resolutely towards catastrophe, merely because those are the marching orders. -- Noam Chomsky

      by kainah on Mon May 23, 2005 at 07:52:28 PM PDT

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    •  Trust dosen't factor into it (none)
      I don't trust Frist, I don't think any of the Dem senators who crafted this deal trust Frist. But this deal makes it very hard for him to pull the trigger, and even harder for the moderates to go along with him if he does. That's the real victory here.

      This deal isn't based on trust, it's based on the fact we can destory any Republican who breaks it

      Come see the house that Tom Delay built.

      by Goldfish on Mon May 23, 2005 at 11:04:35 PM PDT

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    •  At least they just hafta trust mod GOP, not Frist (none)
      The mod GOP will screw themselves with the voters if they now vote yes for loonies.

      They still could, mind you, but it's less likely. Their best interests are in doing what they just did - compromise - and they'll look especially stupid if they undermine their own compromise.

      I'm wondering if we might be seeing the birth of a new cross-party caucus here. They'll have a lot of power to swing, if so.

      "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

      by jbeach on Tue May 24, 2005 at 09:56:08 AM PDT

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