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  •  Does Windows still suck? (3+ / 0-)

    Been on a Macs since 1984 and only use windows machines a work - with lots do firewalls and tech support

    •  I've recently purchased three new Lenovos. (15+ / 0-)

      Two laptops (one $320 and the other $500). And a desktop ($425).

      They all have Windows 7 and I couldn't be happier.

      I've had terrible experiences with Dell products and Windows XP, Millennium and Vista. I'll never go back to Dell.

      If fact, Puddycat, if you want my Dell laptop you're welcome to it. Kosmail me your address and I'll put it in the mail. It's four years old and works fine. I needed something a little faster.

      What, sir, would the people of the earth be without woman? They would be scarce, sir, almighty scarce. Mark Twain

      by Gordon20024 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 03:43:08 PM PST

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    •  I'm Running a Probably 4+ Yr Old Dell Desktop (7+ / 0-)

      17 hours a day that I bought 3 years ago refurbished from a business, Win XP home and it just keeps running like a champ. Every so often it gets grumpy and needs a forced cold reboot, one or few times a month at most.

      After the new year I'm going to try to downsize for power consumption reasons, keeping the desktop monitor and keyboard. Just gotta see if a few critical apps can make the transition, like some ancient graphics software that actually runs in DOS mode, that's easy and fast for my primitive eye to use for illustrating work docs.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 05:01:36 PM PST

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      •  Can't go wrong that way.... (4+ / 0-)

        Every few years I'll wait for the right used desktop to come along on Craigslist and snag the best one available for $100 or less.  I've never paid more than $100 for a used machine and if you get the right one they last forever.  Do a clean install, spend the $20 for a couple extra Gigs of RAM, and you're good to go.

        It amazes me sometimes how much people pay for computers given the depreciation rate.

        "It is never too late to be what you might have been." -- George Eliot

        by paulitics on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 05:47:48 PM PST

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      •  Dell, HP and Lenovo have a several 'grades' of (2+ / 0-)
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        computer models.  Home consumer models are least expensive, business models are more expensive, and 'gamer' models are most expensive.  Expensive gamer isn't necessarily better in terms of reliability than busines grade.  

        The models made for small, medium and larger business use are usually much better made, pass the sorts of Quality Assurance tests that businesses expect PCs to past, use proven quality parts and designs, and engineered to last for 5+ years, even being used 8 or more hours per day, and they usually remain upgradeable during that entire time.  It's also why they tend to cost 30% to 100% more than the home consumer PC.

        The PC model lines made for home consumer use tend to be put together with lowest bid parts and often are only warranteed for 30 days to 90 days, maybe 1 year if you're lucky, and there is a difference in the quality of service provided the business line versus home consumer line.  Dell may only keep exact replacement parts in inventory and available for a home consumer line PC for 6 months to 18 months.  Parts for business line models are much more likely to be stocked for 3 to 5 years, plus there'll be a number of vendors stocking the OEM replacement parts.  So if one buys a 'refurb' or 'open box return' from Dell from their business line, it is likely to be a more reliable PC than even a new consumer line PC, and you'll be more likely to find decent working replacement parts.

        So a Lenovo Thinkpad is well engineered for business use, for surviving airport travel and being lugged around a lot, and is intended for people putting in long days of work.  A Lenovo Ideapad, the sort marketed to college kids, isn't going to have the same ruggedness, features or upgrade options.  Similarly a Dell Lattitude is going to be a better engineered laptop than a Dell Inspiron or Vostro.  HP sells their Pavillion line as the cheap home consumer line and save its Compaq label for the business grade computers.  I suspect Apple is being pushed into seperating their computer lines more and more.  It used to be consistently good across all the models, but I've heard more and more complaints these days.

        As for the debates over Windows versus Linux (Ubuntu or Red Hat or Open Suse or Android, etc.) versus Apple iOS the big drivers for most people is, will it reliably perform, are their frequent security patches provided, does the software you most want to use run on it, is there reliable help easily available.  Personally, I do rank Linux as a better option for those who have a bit of a geeky bent or have good IT support able to help them solve issues that may crop up, but you need to make sure your hardware works with Linux or it can be a few months before Linux handles the newest hardware.  And you need to make sure Linux runs the sort of software you intend to use. Windows reliability these days is largely a factor of how good the 'drivers' are for the PC parts and the reliability of the hardware. Windows still has too many security problems and problems with bugs due to all the 3rd party applications people run on their PCs.  Apple iOS tends to be more stable, but if there is a security issue getting a fix pushed out may take a few days.  Some security threats Microsoft handles pretty quickly, but they're seem to be trying to push out most fixes and patches overnight on the last Tuesday of of the month, unless it's a 'hotfix' and then businesses tend to be offered those whereas home consumer users have to monitor and realize they need and should apply a given hotfix, and will need to know how to 'undo' it if need be. Others have persisted for years.  Linux there are many geeks looking at the bugs, problems, security issues and solutions and patches are usually quickly derived, often in under 24 hours.

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        by antirove on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 07:58:02 PM PST

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    •  Still running XP and it has been great. (1+ / 0-)
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      No surprise crashes, and almost all my clients use it too. When doing book editing, the main features you need are your gray cells, the dictionary, and the Chicago Manual of Style, not the bells and whistles. Half the time my clients have not even heard of tracked changes - so Word 7 would be an affront.

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