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  •  It is not hopeless ... (6+ / 0-)

    It is just another very "heavy lift" ...

    that will put the ultimate test the world community.

    otherwise known as Humanity.

    THE Desertec CONCEPT and Desertec-UK

    Clean power from deserts

    The Desertec concept


    For a summary, click Desertec in brief.

    Every year, each square kilometre of desert receives solar energy equivalent to 1.5 million barrels of oil. Multiplying by the area of deserts worldwide, this is several hundred times as much energy as the world uses in a year.

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    The larger red square on the left shows an area of 114,090 km2 of desert (about 338 km × 338 km [210 miles  × 210 miles] ) that, if covered with concentrating solar power plants, would provide as much electricity as the world is now using. (Of course, the world's CSP plants would never be put all together in one square like that). The 'EU' square (19,200 km2 or about 139 × 139 km  [86.3 miles2] ) shows a corresponding area for the European Union (when it included 25 countries). And the 'MENA' square (3,600 km2 or 60 km × 60 km  [37.2 miles2] ) shows the corresponding area for the Middle East and North Africa.

    Trading those Carbon Footprints for Renewable Footprints
    by jamess -- Nov 18, 2012

    Cheers!   and happy holidays,  while they still are.

    Isn't it time to fix the Filibuster?
    -- Here's how.

    by jamess on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 10:09:29 AM PST

    •  Yes, it's hopeless (0+ / 0-)

      if, perchance x thousands of humans survive this, will they learn?  Maybe we're to die like the locusts.  Maybe this earth and its inhabitants deserve more than us.

    •  Desertec is in trouble (3+ / 0-)

      it is a consortium of companies and recently some big companies have indicated they want to retreat from the consortium. I dont know much about the backgrounds, but I believe it has to do with EU internal subvention money and industrial poltics. Conversely, to my surprise Desertec seemed to have fared rather well with Marokko and Algeria - it seems those two countries are not at all disinclined to this kind of direct linkage to the european industrial infrastructure.

      energy policy develops quickly into some hot & heavy stuff in EU internal politics. Germany is massively ramoing up its renewables through internal production, and that is supported by a subventionated energy price, this brings criticism from industry like the aluminium industry for who electricity is a major raw material, and it brings criticism from the EU commission who sees "distortion of the free market", at the same time in France, for the first time in living memory the pronuclear ideology shows fractures, and this is partly inspired by Germany´s renewables success, partly by the unexpected vulnerability of nuclear baseload supply to summer drought - which forced shutdowns in France recently. Toulouse has gone all the summer practically > 30 deg C - people noticed. So it´s a mix, but not entirely without some hopeful developments. And that could be a hopeful sign for your side too? Once the political will is there, things can get done.

      beste groeten!

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