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  •  I will admit to having a bit of a problem with (3+ / 0-)
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    this situation. If there is a problem what can we do to solve it?

    Does the problem lie with the Pine Ridge tribal government, etc?

    Also, what is the goal, how many families have the group helped, what more is needed?

    The lack of some basic information has kept me from participating so far. Whilst I realize that there is a sure need I don't feel that expecting the same information I do from other projects I donate to to be unreasonable.

    Wonders are many, but none so wonderful as man.

    by Morgan Sandlin on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 01:19:48 PM PST

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    •  It's the propane company at Pine Ridge n/t (3+ / 0-)
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      "It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

      by Rolfyboy6 on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 01:31:11 PM PST

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      •  That's what everyone says...but WHAT is the (4+ / 0-)
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        problem with the propane company at Pine Ridge? Is there a way to solve it by donating through the tribal government? etc., etc..

        Is the propane company at Pine Ridge simply refusing to take orders?

        Wonders are many, but none so wonderful as man.

        by Morgan Sandlin on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 01:44:38 PM PST

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        •  The Tribal government is not the answer (10+ / 0-)

          This comment explains why:

          Kossack cacamp aka Carter Camp left a comment in Meteor Blades's and  Greg Dworkin's diaries on this subject. Carter lived on Rosebud and his son's live on Pine Ridge. (Carter led the Wounded Knee Take Over in 1973.)

          In his comment, Carter underlined the importance of this effort:

          Carter Camp being interviewed
          for the 2009 PBS special,
           "We Shall Remain."
          This summer I picked up two heaters for my kids on Pine Ridge from Sherry. We talked a bit about this direct way of helping our people and how much better it is for us. That's true mainly because Sherry is a part of the community and can concentrate on those families who slip through the cracks and can't get help from other sources.

          Government programs necessarily make people meet certain criteria and place people on their lists accordingly. This is good and really the only way a big program can work but there are some families who just don't fit the criteria but are still in dire need. Sherry (and in past years myself but I've moved) knows these families and how dire their circumstances might be.

          I know Sherry and her Mom and I can fully vouch for how hard she attempts to help the very neediest first. They live in the community they serve. These two women, mainly Sherry now that her Mom is getting older, are very hardworking small business people. South Dakota winters are brutal and handling propane is a cold job in any weather but I've seen Sherry out on the coldest nights wrestling those hoses and getting heat to families who would freeze otherwise or have to seek shelter elsewhere.

          I'm writing this mainly to let all of you who donate know that by doing it this way instead of through the Tribe or a traditional charity you are giving directly to the very neediest of the needy. Nothing goes to overhead or administration. It all goes to delivering propane to the people. Sherry and her business make nothing extra even though she would deserve some for the extra work it puts on them, things like answering phones and keeping track of the money takes time and effort but they only charge us their regular rates. It's her way of taking care of her people and showing her love for her Lakota Nation.

          So thanks you my friends of this community. Your generosity is amazing to me each year and every year I speak to those you have helped and all of them tell me things about how the assistance arrived at just the right time to save them in so many ways. There is no way for us to thank each of you personally and your names won't be inscribed on any walls. But please know it is appreciated by my people, by parents who were worried sick about how to keep their kids warm until they saw Sherry's propane truck pull up into their yards and their prayers were answered... by you.
          In Lakota I say; Pilamaye-tonka. Mitakuye-Oyasin.. Thank you.. for all of my relations.

          by cacamp on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 05:21:09 PM PST

          The Pine Ridge propane company doesn't like the word donations. We feel that people are calling and buying propane. The company has been difficult in the past so we've had to remove their info to avoid frustration for our callers. I'm hoping to get some people I know there to convince them otherwise but I can't do that this week while we're raising awareness with this blogging campaign.

          If you read the the diaries linked under the Invisible Indian banner in my comment above many of your questions will be answered. The extreme poverty is a result of many, many things. The problem is chronic, pervasive and will take many, many acts of state and federal government to rectify.

          This is not your ordinary charity that provides all the information you're used to. This is a grassroots/netroots campaign to provide some quick relief for very poor people who are always the last ones to receive help.

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