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  •  The War Was Winding Down; There'd Been Gaps (4+ / 0-)

    in the draft which is how I inadvertently avoided it with a low number. My feeling from the time was that the true anti-war movement was always very tiny and that ending the draft would soon end the widespread opposition to the war.

    Anyway just 2 years later it was over. Civil Rights was passed, the war was over, we had an environmental protection agency, and a lot of the young leadership of movements in many places would be at the age of starting families.

    I don't think the public protests of the civil rights and vietnam war period indicate the level of interest then in truly fundamental change of political and economic systems. I don't see that those few who did then, and in our time do favor such radical change, have the means to inform and persuade the numbers of people needed to be reached.

    Merely describing a better solution, as necessary as it is, does nothing to make change. Ask any climate scientist about that.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 03:39:17 PM PST

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    •  I suspect (3+ / 0-)

      demographics had a lot to do with it.

      ...and a lot of the young leadership of movements in many places would be at the age of starting families.
      Trying to make a living in a fairly vicious recession might have had an impact as well.

      "There's a crack in everything; that's how the light gets in". Leonard Cohen

      by northsylvania on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 03:51:00 PM PST

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    •  only 7-8% are actively or militantly involved in (3+ / 0-)
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      don mikulecky, NY brit expat, Justina

      any revolutionary movement.  What I think happened to us was that we didn't hav ethe working class embedded in the movement and at that time they still had some worldwide power.  With globailzation, even tnis has dissipated on a national level.  Don't know how we're going to fight in the new global world relations.

      •  fight for survival...bad times are coming (1+ / 0-)
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        resources are running out
        the soil and water are poisoned
        the climate change is accelerating
        and government is useless

        An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

        by don mikulecky on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 06:35:44 PM PST

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