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  •  Thanks for the explanation (9+ / 0-)

    but I'm afraid the diary still deserves the HR, in my opinion. To the extent that the diary is based on fact, it's based on pretty well-accepted fact. If it presented any new information, maybe that would outweigh the argumentative tone. But as it is, it seems to be relying on a fairly banal set of facts as the justification for its obnoxiousness. And that just doesn't cut it.

    Let us all have the strength to see the humanity in our enemies, and the courage to let them see the humanity in ourselves.

    by Nowhere Man on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 11:17:58 PM PST

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    •  I completely understand the feeling... (6+ / 0-)

      And I don't think that anybody decides it deserves an HR is in the wrong.

      I'm not completely certain that I am in the right for uprating and expect by the end of the day I'll be wildly outnumbered there.

      Which is fine.  As I said I'm not supporting the argument but just the right to make it.

      But then I thought Nazis had the right to march in Skokie, though I also thought that the residents of Skokie had the right to beat the crap out of them.

      Peace to you.

      "I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell."

      by Notthemayor on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 11:27:08 PM PST

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      •  Agreed: free speech is paramount. (1+ / 0-)
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        Especially when we're not in the throes of an election.

        I've lived and worked in countries where free-speech is not allowed, where 'insulting' the ruler or a dominant religion is a crime that can lead to jail-time (not just losing one's job), where challenging the dominant narrative is akin to social leprosy. Those are not countries nor communities that I identify with.

        •  A privately owned site is not the government. (2+ / 0-)

          I come here because a minimal amount of civility is enforced by the community. I have been driven off of sites because people tolerated a level of sexism which I found unpleasant. I'm glad we don't typically tolerate blatent racism because that would drive away many people whose opinions I find valuable.

          This person is extremely ignorant of history or, and I see this as more likely, intentionally distorting what he knows in order to make people mad. His contributions are not as valuable as those of the people he would drive away.

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