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  •  Israel is no more a theocracy (1+ / 0-)
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    than we are. There are theocratic movements, just as in this country, but a higher percentage of Israelis are secular and non-religious, and since it is a parliamentary democracy, that matters.

    Since they are not signatories of the NNPT, they have no legal obligation to comply with it.

    As for the Palestinians, many of them support Hamas, and some support Islamic Jihad and other extremist groups (Hezbollah is primarily in Lebanon). But you are generalizing and painting with a broad brush. Many of them don't support the militant methods of Hamas or other groups.

    "Okay, until next time. Keep sending me your questions, and I will make fun of you... I mean, answer them." - Strong Bad

    by AaronInSanDiego on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 09:35:53 AM PST

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    •  None of it is any of our business in any case. (0+ / 0-)

      They do call themselves a Jewish State. A religious symbol is on their flag. Ones religion is a qualification for citizenship.

      The United States has none of these things.

      Any nantion with nuclear weapons that isn't signing the NNPT is a rogue state. The United States should not be doing normal diplomatic business with rogue states with nukes. Isreal should be kept at arms length much like  Pakistan.

      As for the Palestinians, it is perfectly clear that a significant enough chunk of them support known terrorist organizations to be able to make the safe generalization that these people support terrorism. The Isrealis didn't build massive walls around these peopel for there peaceful demonstrations Ghandi or Mandela style.

       But most importantly, the United States has no major economic or national security interest in what happens in that region, except as it relates to the relative safety of the Suez Canal and our TREATY ALLY Turkey.

      •  Jewish identity is ethnoreligious (2+ / 0-)
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        in nature, meaning that there are both ethnic and religious aspects. Zionism was originally a form of ethnic nationalism, like many 19th century nationalist movements. Religious Zionism is more recent, and was not the main force behind the establishment of the State of Israel. The symbol is a Jewish symbol, but it is not explicitly religious, but tied to both a national myth and a religious myth. Nearly 25% of the population is non-Jewish, and a large percentage of those who identify as Jewish are non-religious. The Law of Return is not the only way to establish citizenship, AFAIK, and while the rules defining who is a Jew are religiously based (matrilineal decent, Orthodox conversion, etc.), a person doesn't have to personally subscribe to Judaism in order to qualify.

        Regarding the Palestinians, I think you have a similarly overly simplistic view.

        My point isn't to defend or condemn these things, but I felt that your comment was inaccurate.

        "Okay, until next time. Keep sending me your questions, and I will make fun of you... I mean, answer them." - Strong Bad

        by AaronInSanDiego on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 11:07:41 AM PST

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