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  •  Elect a women, because she's a women? (3+ / 0-)
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    DeadHead, Chi, LaurenMonica

    You were doing fine until your last paragraph.

    The Democratic party is a broad coalition of many different groups with varied interests, but who have enough in common that by electing a Democrat we all get a good deal of what most of us want.

    It would be a huge mistake for any one of the many groups to start supporting and fighting for people simply because they are a member of their group.  This would be extremely divisive and could start handing elections to the Republicans, and the whole country will suffer.

    The Republicans had to choose the least crappy of a whole bunch of crappy candidates in their primaries.  The Democrats usually have the opposite problem of trying to choose the best among a bunch of very good.  I would have been satisfied with almost any of the Dem candidates in 2008.

    We will most likely have a fine collection of candidates in 2016 and the worst thing we could do is start picking candidates based on what part of our broad coalition they are from.

    •  "Woman". You elect A woman. Not "a women". (1+ / 0-)
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      For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

      by Anne Elk on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 12:49:11 PM PST

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    •  I wish people weren't so miserly about the idea of (8+ / 0-)

      a woman President.

      We didn't vote for Obama because he was black, but everyone understood the historical import of what happened. It was a wonderful affirmation of the idea that people of African descent really could aspire to what the rest of us can, even if some roadblocks remain.

      I wish people would extend that graciousness to the idea of a woman as President. In 2016, were she to run, she would be one of the most experienced people ever to stand for the office - having held cabinet positions, a spot in the senate, served as an inquiry lawyer, and even been a first lady.  People would not - Palin style - be voting for her because of her X chromosomes.

      But understand that more than half our population have never  - not once in 44 tries - seen anyone like them hold the office.

      it is overdue, and we should all be charitably disposed to the idea that the same hope this extended to African Americans that their sons might aspire to this office, a woman President would do the  same for our country's female majority.

      Rick Perry - the greatest scientist since Galileo!

      by Bobs Telecaster on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 01:40:14 PM PST

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    •  It is TIME (1+ / 0-)
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      Women represent at least 50% of the electorate.  There IS a woman qualified to be President and it IS time for women to get one of the twenty five turns or so that we were skipped.



      It is patently unfair, and large portions of the population have been patently NOT represented, because we have NOT allowed a variety of our electorate to represent us at our highest levels.  It is time to acknowledge that fact and MAKE AN EFFORT to right that injustice.  

      So, yes, elect a QUALIFIED woman to be president.

      It is TIME.

      •  No one who voted to butcher 150k to 1 million (0+ / 0-)

        Iraqis is qualified to be President.

        No one who voted to limit bankruptcy protection for the most vulnerable is qualified to be President.

        No matter how many positions a person has held, when their judgment is proven to be shit, they're not qualified.

        "the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs."

        by JesseCW on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 04:20:41 PM PST

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        •  I said "qualified" (0+ / 0-)

          I don't have any argument with objections to someone who, in your judgment, is not "qualified", but you should STILL be looking for one of the many qualified woman to elect as president.

          IT IS TIME !!!!!!

          There are no more excuses.

          •  Looking? You don't have to look. There are (0+ / 0-)

            literally dozens of women qualified to be President.

            Unfortunately, one of the qualifications for being any good at the job is having enough integrity that you'll never raise enough money to win the race (regardless of gender).

            "the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs."

            by JesseCW on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 01:49:51 AM PST

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    •  Hillary is not "a woman" (1+ / 0-)
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      Blue Jean

      She is an eminently qualified, extremely intelligent, charismatic, public servant who would make an excellent president.

      However, even if we did want to elect "a woman," would that be so wrong?  

      When is going to be our turn?  We support Democratic men all of the time.  When is the party going to put its weight behind a superior, intelligent qualified woman?

      •  Exactly. (0+ / 0-)

        Sometimes I get sick of this "But hey, tsk, what about just electing the best person?" holier than thou argument, as if the person saying it is not even aware of the incredibly troubled history (and present) women have had to endure due to the continuous and brutal oppression by men. Voting a non-qualified woman into office? No, thanks. (Though there are about a hundred times as many lousy, good-good-for-nothing male politicians out there for one mediocre woman - but our gender makes up 51% of the whole population!). Voting an incredibly qualified woman into office? What the hell are people even complaining about?

        There's a saying that it's easy to call yourself the opposite of a racist, to think and say that you're the better person because you're "colorblind" - as long as you are not of color. I think the same idea can be applied to gender relations as well.

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