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  •  I've Done A Couple Diaries On "Birth Of A Nation" (6+ / 0-)

    The racist themes of whites being pushed away from the polls etc etc etc etc etc etc etc are still the staple of Fox news.

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 03:25:23 PM PST

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    •  ...and apparently Griffith *toned down* a lot of (2+ / 0-)
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      the outrageousness of his source material (a Klan-glorifying novel, The Clansman, by one Thomas Dixon, Jr). Seems he had some sense of proportion.

      What Griffith and Dixon had in common was that they were among "the dispossessed" - white male Southerners whose family fortunes had taken an abrupt turn downward as a direct result of the Civil War and the punitive measures imposed by Reconstruction. (That such measures were to some extent justified and on the whole a better idea than mass executions, didn't matter to either man.)

      If it's
      Not your body,
      Then it's
      Not your choice
      And it's
      None of your damn business!

      by TheOtherMaven on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 04:08:50 PM PST

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      •  I've read it.Horrible book.n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        Conservatism is killing this country. Jayden

        by swampyankee on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 04:19:14 PM PST

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        •  You've got a stronger stomach than I (2+ / 0-)
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          The synopses available online were way more than enough for me.

          If it's
          Not your body,
          Then it's
          Not your choice
          And it's
          None of your damn business!

          by TheOtherMaven on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 04:20:16 PM PST

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          •  well,I had a stiff drink during and after. It was (1+ / 0-)
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            in a box of books I got for a quarter.There was an editorial
            from a local paper pasted in the back about how very wrong
            showing 'Birth Of A Nation' at the White House was.It accused
            D.W.Griffith of historical revisionism-I can't remember much
            more then that-been years since I read it.
             I read out of morbid curiousity,and was horrified.
            Went ahead and saw the movie though.

            Conservatism is killing this country. Jayden

            by swampyankee on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 04:44:29 PM PST

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        •  OTOH I actually did sit thru "Birth of a Nation" (2+ / 0-)
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          Not sure I could do it again, though.

          If it's
          Not your body,
          Then it's
          Not your choice
          And it's
          None of your damn business!

          by TheOtherMaven on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 04:22:28 PM PST

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          •  The First Half Of TBOAN Was A Cinematic Landmark (4+ / 0-)

            The first half of the movie was about the history of the Civil War, with unprecedented sweep and grandeur. The editing seemed completely natural and modern.

            Griffith also did things nobody had ever thought of, like putting the camera on a truck and filming galloping horse.

            Then there was intermission and seemingly a completely different and racist  movie about Reconstruction started, and it was much more of the familiar theatrical format of the silent movies.

            There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

            by bernardpliers on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 04:38:19 PM PST

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            •  It is indeed a brilliantly filmed picture (4+ / 0-)

              The best silent films seem much more contemporary than films from the 30s or 40s because before the advent of sound cameras were much more lightweight and mobile. The introduction of sound technology made the cameras big and clunky, and you started seeing much more rigid and stagey movies.

              •  Not only that, the early mics were big and clunky (0+ / 0-)

                and required fairly direct addressing. (Check out Singin' In the Rain for a humorous look at some early dodges for dealing with the things.) Eventually somebody figured out how to hang a mic from a boom and move it around above the set, which helped a lot.

                If it's
                Not your body,
                Then it's
                Not your choice
                And it's
                None of your damn business!

                by TheOtherMaven on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 11:40:51 PM PST

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