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  •  I don't think that's true at all (9+ / 0-)

    The problem is that this is a story you have to be interested in to seek out. If it were a recurring story on the nightly news, front pages of the NYT, Wapo, USA today there's a chance it would be something discussed in polite company.

    Small varmints, if you will.

    by aztecraingod on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 12:40:14 PM PST

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    •  Like the LIBOR fix. Gone and forgotten. (13+ / 0-)

      Or HSBC and Wells Fargo and the other banks how laundered tens (hundreds?) of billions of drug money; the massive liars-loan frauds; the derivatives frauds; the robo-signing frauds....

      Feature those stories for a week or so and see what public opinion is on about.


      The Internet is just the tail of the Corporate Media dog.

      by Jim P on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 12:54:16 PM PST

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      •  It's easier to blame the "undeserving other" (4+ / 0-)
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        But in all seriousness, we collectively allowed the Financial shysters to play these game for decades.

        We have to organize beyond election cycles for decades to redress these circumstances, assuming we get enough people to recognize that single moms in inner cities didn't steal their pensions and foreclose on their homes.

        When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

        by Egalitare on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 02:19:39 PM PST

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      •  If we had an AG that was not blind to bank crime (4+ / 0-)

        who actually pursued a case, that would pursue a case involving a major bank on the defendant side.....that would make news!

        These capitalists generally act harmoniously and in concert to fleece the people, and now that they have got into a quarrel with themselves, we are called upon to appropriate the people's money to settle the quarrel. Abraham Lincoln

        by Nailbanger on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 03:25:23 PM PST

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    •  The real problem with the story (7+ / 0-)

      is that it doesn't involve a sex scandal.
         If it did then everyone would be interested.

      ¡Cállate o despertarás la izquierda! - protest sign in Spain

      by gjohnsit on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 03:01:11 PM PST

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    •  I think you hit it right on the head. (0+ / 0-)

      I used to think people wouldn't get this stuff and I myself have a hard time keeping all of it together, though I read loads of it and have a father who is in that world. The Occupy movement proved many times over that, when put in the proper context (i.e. the brilliant 99% meme, the witty signs uncovering the problems of income inequality and Wall St owning the levers of political power, etc.) people do understand.

      The reason it doesn't get traction is because the corporate media will remain loathe to cover it in any way, not because it's boring or esoteric, but because it impedes their own livliehood and threatens their advertising dollars, of which they are ultimately beholden. They could give a rat's ass about the Fourth Estate and the basic principles put forth by the Founding Fathers, which they see as cute platitudes like enshrining the need for a robst and interpid press. Justice Brandeis once said you can have concentrated wealth in the hands of a few or you can democracy, but you can't have both.

      I only heard about this piece because it was mentioned by Thom Hartmann on his show today. Which leads me to my conclusion: I'm failry convniced in this day and age of unprecedented media and information stimulus that the stories which should rise to the top, like this one, won't - given our complicit corrupt media, unless we get actively involved. That leaves some work to do. Social media allows us to share these stories via Twitter and FB, and the more we're on top of things the more people will start looking our way.

      How many times can a person see the same old dumb, manufactured controversy about the fiscal cliff or death panels, or "news" item about Cyber Monday and the lottery numbers, before people start to sense the jig is up? - it's all distraction. In my book I reward those who do cover the stories that matter. I do that by subscribing to their channels, posting their pieces and helping to increase awarness that there are other sources of media. If you like and trust an author or website, donate some money to them because they should be kept afloat by our rewarding; while at the same time rid ourselves of corporate-owned cable news and newspaper subscriptions until a time when they earn that trust again.

      Until people see a story a few times over they don't consider it a story. It'll take kindling the small fire that we have here in the story, by taking a role in particpation that will force the big media outlets into becoming humiliated into covering what everybody else is talking about.

      I'll leave you with this: the best way to get there going forward is to avoid falling into the media hunger for the sports of partisan political talk in favor of solely critical, reaosned talk about specific issues. When we're all forced to put on the uniform of one party or the other and trot out to the line of scrimmage to face the enemy we're playing their game. Divide and conquer has kept us separate, and from finding real solutions to the problems that plague the ninety-nine percent of us. Only then may we finally see real civic engagement and peope caring about stories like these.

      •  Your recommendation to remain non-partisan and (0+ / 0-)

        sticking with the specific issues is the modus operandi of one very successful progressive, independent U.S. Senator, Senator Bernie Sanders. He just won re-election again and there is a wonderful article in The Nation Magazine who honored him on Monday.

        That's it. Stay on the facts and the specific issues and help people understand why you say what you say and propose what you say.
        Thanks.

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