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  •  Well, if it is rare, then what (1+ / 0-)
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    would be the "big deal"? You must understand the concept of statistics, that if you have 9,000 stores that some bad things are going to happen. What if less Walmart suspects died than at other stores? Would that be a "big deal" as well?

    •  Yes, it's big deal (10+ / 0-)

      If a single human being out of 8 billion was killed by some un-trained thug protecting plastic shit, it's a big deal.

      It's the sort of thing that should never happen.  It is abhorrent no matter how rare.  If it's happening at other stores, they are equally as culpable as WalMart, but I have Googled like mad and not found a single case of a person being killed by store security guards.  That's at all the other stores, way more than 9,000.  There are over 350,000 retail "doors" in the U.S. alone, and I can't find a single case beyond these three.

      So WalMart deaths are 3/9000 in under a year...

      ... versus none found for all other stores in all of history.

      But, as I said, it doesn't really matter. If it happened to one person on the planet at any store, it's a big deal.  People were not supposed to die this way, and the fact that you would try to reduce it to "data" simply illustrates the appallingly low level of respect for basic humanity that exists in a WallyWorld.

      •  That's just an idiotic claim, that (3+ / 0-)

        no suspects have ever died at other stores. I'm sure it is actually a pretty big number, but wouldn't guess at what it is. You have guessed the number zero, but for you a guess is the same as a fact.

        You must think that cars should be banned, because people do die in them, and even one death is "unacceptable". This is just silliness IMO. If you think it possible that an organization with 2.2 million employees should have an absolutely perfect record when it comes to apprehending shoplifting suspects, you just don't have a sense for large numbers.

      •  I guess you better hone your (0+ / 0-)

        google skills. I found this site that lists shoplifter and shoplifter-associated deaths. There are (ahem) a lot of them.

    •  Why is anybody dying because those stole a few (4+ / 0-)
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      dollars' worth of merchandise?  Why?

      •  I don't know. (1+ / 0-)
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        Sparhawk

        But it is indeed possible that when you are talking about literally over a million shoplifters being apprehended every year at Walmarts, and given the dangers of any physical altercation, that there is just some small, expected number of deaths that are going to occur. Its the same as kids dying while practicing on high school sports teams, or people dying while walking the dog. If you have big enough numbers, fluky things will create finite numbers of bad events. Right now, this minute, there are likely more than one million people at a Walmart somewhere. Of course, over time, all sorts of both good and bad unusual things will happen to small numbers of those people, with little to nothing to do with the official policies of the company.

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