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  •  Make sure they are blamed (11+ / 0-)

    Make sure the Republicans do get blamed for it, by sending people to see the following video.  It makes the story obvious. I made it.  It is a scientific cartoon using the CBO budget graphs, and people like it.  The CBO graphs show that the thing to do is: leave entitlements alone for now, raise taxes slowly starting with Clinton rates on the top incomes, and use Obamacare and any other way to reduce long-term healthcare costs, because that will be reflected in Medicare costs.  It is easier to watch the video, than to read this description of it:
    http://www.youtube.com/...

    •  Good job (3+ / 0-)
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      I thought you did an excellent job on the graph video, but I have some questions:

      You seem to have left out of your spending totals payments on interest on the debt.  Why?  Doesn't this have an impact on total spending?

      Then there is the real issue:  the impact of tax rates on economic growth.  Republicans make the case, long shown to be false and recently shot down -- again -- by Warren Buffet, that low tax rates on the wealthy lead to increased investment.

      This is the real issue driving the current Washington debacle, and it is yet another case in which Democrats need to stop accepting Republican assumptions and return debate to the real world.

      The wealthy do not "invest" their wealth.  Either they squirrel it away in offshore accounts, removing that money from the general economy, or they put it in the gambling casino that the Wall Street system has become, with the same result.  Either way, the Republican program of using government to transfer wealth from the poor and middle class to the wealthy does not benefit economic growth; it hampers growth.  Real investment decisions do not depend on tax rates; they depend on the expectation of making a profitable return.  Which will not happen if a business has no customers, because more and more people are out of a job.

      So we see yet another example of Republicans turning the truth upside down, to add to these, among others:

      The Affordable Care Act does not add to the debt, it lowers the deficit.
      The deficit, and the debt, are not products of Democratic programs, but rather of the Republicans'.
      The party that uses government to transfer wealth from the productive sector of the population to an unproductive class dependent on handouts is the Republicans.
      And finally, most blatant of all, the idea that Obama is "divisive" and Republicans are bi-partisan.  This is so only if we define bi-partisan as expecting the other side to do what you tell them to; expecting to get everything you want, all the time; and assaulting your own ideas whenever the other sides accepts them.

      The only surprise in the polling is that at least SOME of the American population is waking up to reality.  For now.

      In Washington, whenever anyone does something wrong, everyone else gets punished.

      by Noziglia on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 07:01:33 AM PST

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    •  The question is, *who* will blame the Republicans? (1+ / 0-)
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      rhauenstein

      Given that all politics is local, if the people in the districts and states represented by Republicans agree with their hard-line position, then Republicans in Congress have no incentive to do anything but stick with that position. Why? Because that's what they anticipate will get them votes next election.

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