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  •  Y'know what? (10+ / 0-)

    I'm done signing petitions.

    I think you're a nice person..., but you're going about this the wrong way.  First:  DO something.  THEN we'll talk.  Giving us busy work clicking links and signing petitions is silly child's play to keep us from pestering you.

    In 2006 Rep Conyers had the draft proposal for an impeachment proceeding against the most incredibly stupid, lying war criminal who's ever occupied the Oval Office....  Based on "what they planned to do in the future" or "what they will do after election day," I signed petitions, supported those who indicated they'd finally DO something to stop Dumbya & Dickie.  My Democratic Rep signed on as co-sponsor, so, of course, he got my vote (I always vote straight Dem ticket, had voted for him before).  Come  the end of Jan/beginning of Feb '07 I wrote my Rep....  He had changed his tune really fast.  Suddenly Congressional members who signed on, including him, were afraid of proceeding for fear of "Republican Backlash."

    In '08 I left all the ovals blank for Rep, voted for the rest of the Democrats (my way of being listed as 'present, not voting').  In '10 someone finally challenged him, so I voted for him as the lesser of two evils, even though I still believed he was a coward, right along with Conyers and the others who signed on as co-sponsors of the draft impeachment resolution.  Even that pity vote wasn't enough and after 30++ years he was out on his keester..., replaced by a Teahadist..., who was tossed out handily this year by a Democrat with experience as being a Rep many years ago.

    AFTER all of you in Congress earn your pay checks and actually DO something for a change instead of letting the Republican'ts bully, and otherwise coerce you into doing their bidding, and only promising to try to maybe get something done..., then come talk to us.  THEN we'll have something and someone to support.  Signing a petition now is guaranteed to see you back in a few weeks or months or years whining and whinging "Oh, but we couldn't do anything because "our friends on the other side of the aisle wouldn't let us."

    Yes, Congress is now predictable.  I almost wish I were a bit of a gambler.  I'd have become rich in the last twelve years predicting all the failures and cave-ins we've seen.

    Please, gather all your friends in Congress and do a remedial course on Constitution 101.  It is CONGRESS who authorizes and declares war (or not) - NOT the president (in fact, he doesn't even have to be asked to be Commander in Chief if I'm reading that part of the Constitution correctly).  It is, additionally, CONGRESS who can acquire or withhold money to carry out wars, and then there's a prescribed time limit.  (Quick - what is it?  Bzzzt!  Time's up!  You all exceeded what the Constitution said a loooong time ago.]

    For that matter, that "little folly" in Afghanistan is NOT a technical war.  AUMF to go after a little rag-tag group of criminals hiding in the mountains of Afghanistan does NOT a war make!  They represented no one but themselves, were never aligned with any country, were never a political or military faction within any country.  In effect, the little criminal gangsters were men without countries.  I bet you don't know how many members Al Quaeda had at that point....  I don't know.  No one in media ever said.  But I'd bet a whole quarter it was fewer than 1000 members, possibly not above 500.

    NO COUNTRY declared war against us, remember.  It was a pathetic, delusional, paranoid egomaniac leading his little criminal group of thugs who declared war against us.  He was a joke!!!  [Why on earth did anyone ever take him seriously?!?]

    The US can NOT declare a legal or constitutional war against a little criminal gang!!!  AUMF only authorized Dumbya and Dickie to send half the might of the US military against a little gang of criminals in the inaccessible mountains of Afghanistan.  That is ALL.  Our military personnel were used as a police force to go after criminals.  Dumbya said he was going to go after the people responsible for 9/11.

    Well, guess what?  The bodies of the murdering hijackers were blown to smithereens right along with the people they murdered.  There was NO ONE to "go after!"  Duh!  Bin Laden?  Did he really plan that whole thing?  I don't know.  He always struck me as too self-centered to think outside of his little sphere of influence.  BUT, ah..., AFTER the planes and buildings blew up and killed almost 3K people, there's no one to gainsay a delusional moron if he says he planned the whole thing.  They were/are fanatics, after all, and fanatics are not rational people.  [Just look at Dumbya and Dickie.]

    AUMF is NOT a formal DECLARATION OF WAR..., because no one in that region was a threat to us (seriously, box cutters and then planes were the weapons of choice for the criminal hijackers - not guns and bombs).  Congress did not vote to start a war against anyone.  You authorized a "president" to use military force.  He decided, on his own (like a bloody dictator he wanted to be) to invade Iraq..., but if you were listening to the 2000 presidential "debates," Dumbya was intent on invading Iraq to finish his daddy's war LONG before election day rolled around.  I journaled that night that if that cretin were elected, he'd invade Iraq to finish his daddy's war and we'd go into a recession.  Then went on a rant that I didn't see how anyone could be dumb enough to vote for a man that incredibly stupid.  [Well, I got two out of three predictions.  That's not comforting.  Too many people have died, too much money has been lost, and we still need to repay the loans you all took out to pay for that monstrous idiocy and folly..., and the only ones who profited were oil, military-industrial complex, and mercenary corporations.]

    It's WAY PAST time to withdraw from Afghanistan.  We never should have invaded in the first darn place!!!

    Go read the Constitution again.  CONGRESS can withhold funds for war, only doling out enough to get our people on the next troop transport planes out of there..., and leave.  Bring them back to US soil - do NOT send them to a nearby Mideast country like the troops who "left" Iraq - then never came home, but went to bases in nearby countries.  Idiocy.  Bring them home to US soil...!!!

    You and your fellow Congresspeople took an oath to support and defend the Constitution.  So, DO just exactly that for a change.  I know all of you are out of practice since the fiasco of the SCOTUS decision of December 2000, but refresh your memories by reading about your duties as enumerated in the Constitution.  Abide by the Constitution and DO something worthwhile for a change instead of whining and whinging about how bad the Republican'ts are.

    Then... come back, tell us what you accomplished, and no one will have to beg us to get a silly, meaningless petition signed because all of you will have done your jobs as you took an oath to do...!  When you do what's right for the people who voted for you, there is no need for a petition of any kind.

    Think logically.  Act in a manner that conveys you have some common sense.  Kick corporations out of the halls of Congress!  Repeal laws that took away our rights (don't extend them!), abolish the 'office of faith-based initiatives' that Dumbya created to run out of the White House, repeal Gramm-Leach-Bliley and reinstate Glass-Steagall and the banking crises will end.  Leave Social Security alone, let the temporary Obama tax cut (and past Bush temporary tax breaks) expire and go back to what it was, tax the rich, remove the FICA cap.  Toss out the corporate health insurance laws that [illegally] make us contribute to private corporations' profit margins and let people buy into not-for-profit single payer insurance: Medicare (we won't have to waste money on corporate bonuses or shareholder profits)..., you'll create jobs right here in America because extra people will need to be hired to handle the paperwork, and the impact on the economy will be almost instantaneous.  Medicare is already running smoothly, the infrastructure is already there.  Just switch people over to it!

    Would it be too much to hope for you to actually DO something about protecting whistleblowers and not trying to convict them for crimes they did NOT do?

    Would it be too much to hope for you to actually punish the lying war criminals, George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney for their lies and war crimes, and for illegally and unconstitutionally ordering people to do torture???  They and their lying war criminal cohorts deserve to spend the rest of their unnatural little lives in prison.

    DO something!!!  Then we'll talk.  I'm tired of being ashamed and embarrassed to call myself an American because we have an executive and legislative and judiciary in cahoots with the damned corporations, Casino Wall Street, and big banking.  

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.
    -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

    Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.
    -- Benito Mussolini

    Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity, quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace.
    -- Benito Mussolini

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 08:40:02 PM PST

    •  Tell it like it is NonnyO. Right on. (8+ / 0-)

      I think I've told you that before. :)

      "The Global War on Terror is a justification for U.S. Imperialism. It must be stopped."

      by BigAlinWashSt on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 09:05:38 PM PST

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    •  in my head, this is playing, NonnyO: (8+ / 0-)

      "Did you ever know that you're my hero?"

      Nailed it, Sistah.

      •  {{{~♥~}}} (7+ / 0-)

        Thank you for your kindness!

        I try, mama jo....  I really try.  About 99% of our politicians disappoint us by all the give-aways to the corporations and banks and Casino Wall Street and everything that is inherently bad for the people who worked so hard to get them elected.

        A nice, simple, not-for-profit, single-payer health insurance program run through Medicare.  No overhead to worry about.  It would provide a ton of new jobs (and lots of tax money for the treasury).  It would be the first step to catching up with civilized countries around the world (I still like the systems int he Scandinavian countries the best).

        It wouldn't be difficult at all....

        But insurance, medical, and pharmaceutical corporations will now join oil, MIC, and mercenary corporations for record-setting profits, all thanks to our Congress Critters who let them write the laws that benefit the corporations.  Then $COTU$ piled it on by making the premiums into a tax..., with the money skipping the step where it goes to the US treasury first.  Straight from us to corporate profits, executive bonuses, and record-setting profits to pay to shareholders.  "Seems like" it's a way to launder money in a circular flow between corporations.

        What a kick in the teeth for We The People!  [Speaking of which, include dental and eye care in with a sensible not-for-profit, single-payer health insurance program.]

        Meanwhile, undeclared wars against criminal gangs go on unabated, wasting more of our money that could be spent here in the US.

        So..., remind me again why we had elections?  So we could be metaphorically stabbed in the back and robbed by the very people we sent to DC to do things that benefit all of us, not the bloody corporations....?

        Thanks for being a dear and considerate person, mama jo.  The world is a better place for people like you~♥~!

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 02:11:55 AM PST

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    •  Petitions are effective. NonnyO, please sign. We (5+ / 0-)

      peace folks don't have the $ the oil companies have to make Congress listen to us, the only thing we have is our numbers, and petitions let them know there are a lot of us who want to end the war.

      I remember locally how effective a petition was in my town.  No one listened to us individually, but when we collected enough signatures, then they did.

      Information is the currency of democracy. ~Thomas Jefferson

      by CIndyCasella on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 09:39:44 PM PST

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    •  Preach it, sister! You go, girl! Amen! n/t (2+ / 0-)
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      shaharazade, NonnyO

      The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war.

      by lotlizard on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:55:15 PM PST

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    •  I know I'm late with the comment (0+ / 0-)

      You do realize that Barbara Lee was the only member of Congress to vote against the Afghanistan invasion. Because of this she was widely ridiculed and received death threats. She has been a consistent advocate of ending the occupations of both Iraq and Afghanistan.

      Except for that, excellent rant.

      A proud member of the Professional Left since 1967.

      by slatsg on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 12:03:36 PM PST

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