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  •  bleak (15+ / 0-)

    but fair look at the issue.

    However, we need to keep trying to focus on the positives no matter how scarce they may seem.

    perhaps that the best I will be able to do is tell the story and apologize to my grandchildren.
    Indeed. But until then we can continue putting forth common sense solutions that will mitigate climate change's worst effects.

    And remember: if we fail on climate change, nothing else matters. - WarrenS

    by LaughingPlanet on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 05:42:13 AM PST

    •  idle and biased look at the issue (10+ / 0-)
      Solar, wind, nuclear, energy from space fantasies, and other magical thinking will make NO difference in the magnitude of the problem we face.
      A breathtakingly childish statement. The wind/solar power generation potential maximum for the entire earth is much higher than present usage levels:
      The analysis indicates that a network of land-based 2.5-megawatt (MW) turbines restricted to non-forested, ice-free, nonurban areas operating at as little as 20% of their rated capacity could supply >40 times current worldwide consumption of electricity, >5 times total global use of energy in all forms. [source]
      We will need to make a major effort in the next half-century. But these Chicken Little imitations say more about their authors than reality. They also tend to discourage people from doing anything, which makes me wonder about the motivations of those who regurgitate them.

      I just hope we settle down to that major effort without being spurred on by some massive disaster in the Third World. But I'm rather pessimistic about that.

      "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

      by sagesource on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 10:56:04 AM PST

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      •  I'm encouraged by the example of Germany (4+ / 0-)
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        monkeybrainpolitics, cai, DawnN, splashy

        and others using solar power now as shown in Solar Power Revolution - Here Comes The Sun
        The film shows how quickly a massive change from fossil fuels (and nuclear) can be achieved. All that is needed is the political will.

        The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right. -- Judge Learned Hand, May 21, 1944

        by ybruti on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 01:32:44 PM PST

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      •  I try to remain optimistic (1+ / 0-)
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        I really do.  It's just the measuring of the 6 MILLION wind machines in the above calculation vs. the ease with which we will continue to exploit carbon based energy sources leaves me very worried.

        We simply can't expect the world population, esp. in poor countries to stop doing so, without a revolution in how we live.  History shows this doesn't happen easily.  We have always preferred cathedral building and sacrificial religion to changing our relationship to a failing ecology.

        In addition to that -- hope aside, we are already well past the tipping point in atmospheric CO2 levels.  And as long as we are throwing barbs around: How many tons of carbon did you personally put into the air last year?  I know that I did a bunch; I'm pretty sure you did too.

        Labor was the first price paid for all things. It was not by money, but by labour, that all wealth of the world was originally purchased. - Adam Smith

        by boatwright on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 02:03:25 PM PST

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      •  I (1+ / 0-)
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        might quibble with some of the bleaker figures, but imo the general thrust is accurate, and the writing is very, very good.

    •  don't you mean, my grandCHILD? (1+ / 0-)
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      we only have one; the only responsible thing for him to do will be to have only one... a few generations of that would be a great help in reducing the resource burden of the top third, but we certainly don't have time for THAT (multiple generations)

      if there aren't some large population crashes soon, there will probably be a total one (immediate full extinction or so few H.sap survivors so widely scattered that there will be no possibility of species recovery)

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 12:23:15 PM PST

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