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  •  Thanks for reminding me of allowing Medicare to (4+ / 0-)
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    negotiate with the big pharmaceutical companies quicklund, I forgot about that one.

    And, you stimulate another idea for our negotiating posture that might produce dramatic results.  Right now the GOP is creating a media narrative consisting mostly, of how much equivalently  "reasonable compromise?" will Democrats make, if Republicans "compromise" on taxes -- which of course is not a compromise as this will happen automatically.

    But, as soon as we start putting defense spending cuts and a willingness to put the ability of Medicare to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies on the table as examples of our willingness to pursue spending cuts, how long to do you think it will take before the GOP decides to put this whole self-created mess behind us with simpler solutions.  Right now its like a game of shooting Democrats like fish in a barrel.

    The fish need to start shooting back.

    Which reminds me yesterday someone wrote a post suggesting that if we but buy-in to Medicare on the table as one of the ACA insurance options we could save large numbers of billions of dollars.

    While we are at it why don't we think about pardoning about 500,000 to 800,000 people in jail for non-violent drug offenses at $50,000 per person/year. This might  save $25 to $40 billions in addition to be the right thing to do.

    Let's have a serious examination of all the potential saving and I think we will see that cutting social spending like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, government pension, (with chained CPI), and education shouldn't even be on the table.  

    The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

    by HoundDog on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 11:56:46 AM PST

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    •  Sensors indicate this is the general idea (0+ / 0-)
      Let's have a serious examination of all the potential saving and I think we will see that cutting social spending like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, government pension, (with chained CPI), and education shouldn't even be on the table.  
      Well, yes and no. As discussed, allowing prescription negotiation would be a "cut" to the safety net, but not a cut to the beneficiaries. I do feel the Democrat's goal here is to raise taxes and cuts spending, but to do so in way that protect beneficiaries.

      Obviously the nation's prisons will not expel hundreds of thousands of people during the lame duck session. But that example is a good one to show why Democrats should not fear all spending reductions just because Republicans like them. (Speaking generally, not implying anything towards you.)

      On the marijuana issues specifically, the wind is clearly blowing in the right direction. It will probably take another election cycle in 2014 and a few more Washingtons, but right now it looks like basic economic considerations are pushing marijuana laws towards teh dustbin.

      Well, just to wrap up, I think the Democrats are telling us they understand the basic goals here. Pressuring them on the goal of protecting beneficiaries is good and actually helps them. Any 'grand bargain' deal will be imperfect, of course. But I think we are in position to score an overall win.

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