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  •  Depends on how you define it (4+ / 0-)

    from RFK Lives's diary on this

    Webster-Merriam defines "entitlement" as follows:

        en·ti·tle·ment noun -ˈtī-təl-mənt\
        Definition of ENTITLEMENT
        1a : the state or condition of being entitled : right b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract
        2: a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program
        3: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges

    You're using 1a. The Republicans are using 3.  There's confusion. If we stop using 1a, no confusion.

    -7.75, -8.10; All it takes is security in your own civil rights to make you complacent.

    by Dave in Northridge on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 11:01:32 AM PST

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    •  Not even usage #3 necessarily carries negative (4+ / 0-)
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      The belief that someone is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges isn't a bad thing when it's true.

      1a is the legal definition. You're fighting a losing battle.

      Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

      by Robobagpiper on Tue Nov 27, 2012 at 11:09:24 AM PST

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    •  The correct response to (2+ / 0-)
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      the republican scream of "entitlements bad" is "bullshit."  

      How is it bad to believe that one is entitled to collect social security? It's just truth. There is no connotation positive or negative unless we let the republicans make it bad. I refuse.

    •  After working (4+ / 0-)

      For 40 years and having my target age of 65 increased by a year I don't feel entitled as I worked, contributed to and earned my retirement. 1 1/2 years to go!

    •  #3 is just as true (1+ / 0-)
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      I am entitled to my social security benefits.  I fucking paid for them with 18 years in the workforce (so far) and probably another 20 to come.


    •  Benefit has the same problem (1+ / 0-)
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      Your use of Social Security as a benefit is just 3b, most others have the connotation of something given as an act of charity, which Social Security most certainly isn't. It is payment to seniors (and other qualified individuals) that they are entitled to by law.

      from Merriam-Webster online

      ben·e·fit noun ˈbe-nə-ˌfit\

      Definition of BENEFIT

      1 archaic : an act of kindness : benefaction
         a : something that promotes well-being : advantage
         b : useful aid : help
         a : financial help in time of sickness, old age, or unemployment
         b : a payment or service provided for under an annuity, pension plan, or insurance policy
         c : a service (as health insurance) or right (as to take vacation time) provided by an employer in addition to wages or salary
      4 : an entertainment or social event to raise funds for a person or cause

      The interesting thing about the hijacking of entitlement is that it is used by folks that believe that the only entitlement that is worth defending is that owed to the rich, allowing them to pay less taxes than real workers.

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